The propaganda of April-May 1945

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by JLEES » 25 Jan 2009 14:36

Interesting!
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Re: Propaganda

Post by Helly Angel » 26 Jan 2009 02:42

varjag wrote:
JLEES wrote:Jens,
That was most interesting! I believe the US Army took Munich on April 30. It's interesting that they were publishing the Völkischer Beobachter right up until the city was occupied.
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The last issue of the Volkischer Beobachter in Berlin was April 28th, Varjag
Last edition of VB from the North Germany was april 27, not 28.

Last edition of VB from the South Germany was april, 30.

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by varjag » 26 Jan 2009 11:13

@ Helly Angel...I was talking Berlin only - surrounded as it was at that time. Was there another 'north German edition'?
Source for the 28th, is Kuby's 'Die Russen in Berlin' which appears very well researched, rgds, Varjag

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by Halfdan S. » 26 Jan 2009 17:38

Interesting thread! Can anyone confirm that it was Dr. Naumann that edited the Panzerbär? And speeking of Naumann I have an american print of a speech he supposedly held on March 23, 1945 called "Surrender, never!" - wonder where the text came from, as I'd like to see the german original text - could it have been printed in Völkischer Beobachter?!

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by Helly Angel » 27 Jan 2009 04:14

Hello Varjag,

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"...The last copy of the North German edition (of the Völkischer Beobachter) was dated April 27, 1945, and of the South German German edition, April 30."


Source: "The Encyclopedia of the Third Reich". Edited by Christian Zentner and Friedemann Bedürftig. page 1002, Da Capo Press - ISBN: 0-306-80793-9
http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Thi ... 149&sr=8-3

Hello Halfdan,

Yes, that was the speech of Neumann and it was used as the ideological manual to the Werwolf and the people. It was published and is one of the last materials of the Reich. Neumann was the leader of a nazi conspirators circle after the war and was a kind of Führer underground, in this forum you can search about that.

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by JLEES » 27 Jan 2009 22:16

Yes, Berlin’s Panzerbär’s last issue was April 28, two days before Hitler’s suicide. And I think the claim that Berlin’s Völkischer Beobachter was published on that day is possibly wrong. I believe the two periodicals are being confused. Furthermore, as I understand it the Völkischer Beobachter ceased publication in Munich on April 20, the day the US Army captured the city. Since the Völkischer Beobachter’s publishing house was also in Munich, how could the last issue have been printed on April 30 in Southern Germany? I know the US Army would not have simply stood by and allowed this periodical to be printed and the publishing house was seized on the first day of occupation. The Encyclopedia of the Third Reich” must be wrong on this issue. Or, was the issue printed one week earlier and never issued before the occupation?
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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by Helly Angel » 28 Jan 2009 02:34

Last editions were captured by allies, never were published.

A question: the news in cinema... the "Deutsche Wochenschau" was until...? there are a edition post-war?

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by MarkGilfach » 03 Aug 2011 20:40

James

Do you mean the Panzerbar of 27 April? That's the fornt page shown above. The headline reads "Bulwark Against Bolshevism." Mark Evans

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by Helly Angel » 03 Aug 2011 20:46

Last edition of Panzerbär was in april 29, with the headline with a false new of a ring of defenders helping to the NS fighter to scape from Berlin and the russian circle.

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by JLEES » 03 Aug 2011 21:39

Mark,
I believe there was one additional publication after April 27. However, I'm not sure.
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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by jeffhan373 » 04 Aug 2011 00:44

The American army didn't take Munich until April 30. The VB was definitely printed up to that date. The last issue I have is 4/28, but I have xeroxes of 4/29 and 4/30. The 4/30 issue was not distributed to the public because the Americans got to the Mueller Printing Company before distribution could begin.

The VB Munich & South German editions were printed in Munich; the Berlin & North German editions were printed in or near Berlin, which is why the two editions didn't simultaneously shut down.

"Panzerbaer" was printed until 4/29. Scan of last issue attached...
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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by Helly Angel » 04 Aug 2011 04:46

THANK YOU Jeff!!!!

Do you have any other detail of this last edition? how many pages? the pages scanned?

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by JLEES » 04 Aug 2011 12:27

Thanks for clearing that up Jeff! Could you show us the scan of the last issue?
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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by jeffhan373 » 04 Aug 2011 14:59

Issues of "Panzerbaer" were 4 pages long (there may have been a 2 page supplement to one issue, so far this is unconfirmed). It ran daily from 4/23 to 4/29 1945.

Originals do show up from time to time, but are always extremely expensive. Every issue has been reproduced since 1945, and anyone contemplating buying issues should triple check their source before buying!

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Re: The propaganda of April-May 1945

Post by JLEES » 04 Aug 2011 17:02

Outstanding information! Many thanks.
James

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