Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Discussions on all aspects of the NSDAP, the other party organizations and the government. Hosted by Michael Miller & Igor Karpov.
J. Duncan
Member
Posts: 3495
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 10:22

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by J. Duncan » 26 Jun 2009 02:35

The Duke of Windsor wears a pained expression, almost as if to say..."Don't light a match near your breath Robert!".

Igor Karpov
Host - ABR sections
Posts: 2782
Joined: 17 Dec 2008 17:21

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Igor Karpov » 16 Jul 2009 08:29

Karl Hanke, Baldur von Schirach and Dr. Robert Ley.

Regards,
Igor
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

pavel michalek
Member
Posts: 971
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 13:19

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by pavel michalek » 31 Mar 2010 14:55

Nice shots of Robert Ley in Holland during his visit in 1942.


Michal78
Member
Posts: 5337
Joined: 16 May 2007 18:39
Location: Slovakia

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Michal78 » 26 Jun 2011 20:50

Photo of R.L.
Michal
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

J. Duncan
Member
Posts: 3495
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 10:22

Robert Ley (Feb. 15, 1890)

Post by J. Duncan » 15 Feb 2012 22:42

Thumbing through a book and discovered to my chagrin (co-incidental) that today (Feb. 15) is Robert Ley's 112th birthday. Not that this means anything, but strange that I happened to be looking at an entry on him in the "Biographical Dictionary of the Extreme Right from 1900" by Philip Rees, on his very birthdate. Noticed afterwards that Streicher's was Feb. 12, 1885.
Interesting figure, that Ley. I still think that his untreated alcoholism played a major factor in his erratic life. Too bad they didn't have treatment centers or AA back then. His brain was supposedly underdeveloped in his "frontal lobes" (whatever that means). Some attributed his condition to a WWI flying injury to his head. For a man with a brain disorder, he went pretty far, obtaining a doctorate, a job as an agricultural chemist, and a top position within Hitler's NSDAP (Labor Front, Strength Through Joy). He treated his wife rather shabbily (so critics have written) and his drinking almost killed the Windsors in what could have been a DWI auto wreck. Strange man. He was also quick with his fists in the early days, crashing beer mugs into heads and knocking Socialists and Communists about. He also took a few lumps on his own.
For a good biography on Robert Ley, see Ronald Smelser's "Robert Ley: Hitler's Labor Front Leader". For the German Labor Front, see Roger Bender's definitive title "Nazi Labor Organizations".

Life magazine article on Ley's brain, photo of doctor dissecting it.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hUgEAA ... in&f=false

User avatar
Helge
Member
Posts: 1680
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 07:09
Location: Finland

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Helge » 18 Feb 2012 09:21

I do not know if this photograph was published: it is a double picture I apologize

Photo: this is an official press photo of the arrest of Nuremberg trial defendant and former Minister of Labor, Dr. Robert Ley.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

jeffhan373
Member
Posts: 531
Joined: 27 Mar 2008 00:46

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by jeffhan373 » 19 Feb 2012 21:52

The two photos of Robert Ley attached were taken in late 1944 or 1945. It's odd to note that in neither of them he is wearing his Blood Order ribbon. I wonder why anyone who received this prestigious award would not have been displaying it - especially at his level in the Party...
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Halfdan S.
Member
Posts: 2475
Joined: 08 Oct 2007 02:02
Location: Copenhagen

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Halfdan S. » 19 Feb 2012 22:40

Hi Jeff,

thanks for posting - which armband ist he wearing?

Regards
Halfdan S.

User avatar
Michael Miller
Forum Staff
Posts: 8793
Joined: 10 Mar 2002 22:05
Location: California

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Michael Miller » 19 Feb 2012 22:49

"... which armband ist he wearing?"


Deutscher Volkssturm Wehrmacht.

User avatar
Helge
Member
Posts: 1680
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 07:09
Location: Finland

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Helge » 20 Feb 2012 07:37

There is a photograph of Dr. Robert Ley wearing this badge?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

jeffhan373
Member
Posts: 531
Joined: 27 Mar 2008 00:46

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by jeffhan373 » 20 Feb 2012 15:54

By the way, does anyone have photos of other Political Leaders wearing the Volkssturm armband on their uniforms? I think I've only seen Ley & Erich Koch with this on...

trespasser07
Member
Posts: 663
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 13:34

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by trespasser07 » 04 May 2012 11:41

"We believe in what we do!" - written in Friedrich Rainer's Guestbook by Odilo Globocnik in April 1943.

User avatar
von thoma
Member
Posts: 5955
Joined: 10 Jul 2010 03:40
Location: Spain

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by von thoma » 05 May 2012 12:52

Which is this uniform ?
He hasn't rank on the shoulder.
250px-Bundesarchiv_.jpg
Photo:http://people.famouswhy.com/robert_ley/robert_ley_1.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
" The right to believe is the right of those who don't know "

Mark Costa
Member
Posts: 2676
Joined: 26 Jul 2002 17:41
Location: USA

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Mark Costa » 05 May 2012 15:44

This type of uniform had no regulations related to it. It is considered to be a forerunner of the later Reichsleiter uniform. In early 1933 these "Grüppenführer" style collar tabs were produced for departmental leaders of the Reichsleitung. They were Carmine based with gold oakleaves and gold piping. Men like Ley, Rosenberg, Bouhler, Buch, Grimm, Feder, Buttmann, Schwarz all wore these type tabs for a short period in the 1933. In mid-1933, these tabs were abolished and changed to resemble "gauleiter" tabs also in Carmine with gold piping and gold oakleaves. These two styles were replaced by what is commonly referred to as the first style Reichsleiter collar tabs. In mid 1933 one can see both this style here and the "gauleiter" style tabs being worn by Reichsleitung men at the same time. No regulations exist for them.
The tabs shown here with Ley are often confused with SA Grüppenführer" tabs but are not.

Mark Costa

User avatar
Matt Gibbs
Member
Posts: 2984
Joined: 23 Mar 2002 00:46
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Reichsleiter Dr. Robert Ley

Post by Matt Gibbs » 05 May 2012 22:37

Jeff
I've seen that first photo of Ley with the weirdly oversized looking brim to the cap [angle of the shot] but not the other one. I didn't realise at the time before he's not wearing the blood order ribbon, and as you say, how unusual! Perhaps he just couldn't find a spare, or forgot to take it off another tunic. I don't suppose it was something to do with that economy looking style of uniform,[?] since he is wearing most of his other awards. You certainly don't see so many high ranking officials wearing that Volksturm armband. I think I've seen another gauleiter wearing it though. Maybe Alfred Meyer, I seem to recall a wintery picture and an overcoat but I may be wrong.

Return to “NSDAP, other party organizations & Government”