An unknown officer

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by ttvon » 23 Feb 2019 15:58

Thanks!
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Who is the officer(20) with Hitler in the car?
Robert Ley and Schaub sit on the officer's right.


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Re: An unknown officer

Post by Andrey » 23 Feb 2019 16:37

Last one is Gauleiter Karl Kaufmann.

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by ttvon » 24 Feb 2019 09:12

Thanks! Next: We can see a Reichsleiter(21) clear in the pic. Who is he in 1939?
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Re: An unknown officer

Post by goofy » 24 Feb 2019 13:46

It is Wilhelm Grimm.
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Re: An unknown officer

Post by alexzouv » 24 Feb 2019 16:45

Notice that in that green circle in which is Grimm there are also Schaub and Franz Kutschera

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by ttvon » 24 Feb 2019 17:00

goofy wrote:
24 Feb 2019 13:46
It is Wilhelm Grimm.
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alexzouv wrote:
24 Feb 2019 16:45
Notice that in that green circle in which is Grimm there are also Schaub and Franz Kutschera
Thank you very much!
By the way, do you know who the two officers(Gauleiter and SA-Gruppenführers) are on right of Schaub?
They are between Schaub and Ley.

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by goofy » 24 Feb 2019 19:16

Gauleiter is Carl Röver.
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Re: An unknown officer

Post by alexzouv » 25 Feb 2019 12:50

I think the gauleiter is Franz Schwede-Coburg

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by goofy » 25 Feb 2019 21:37

Possibly it could be Schwede-Coburg as well..It was my first guess too...however in all other photos from this event is Röver. Maybe Schwede attended too. :)
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Re: An unknown officer

Post by Br. James » 25 Feb 2019 22:00

Well, the Reichsleiter circled as "21" does appear to be Wilhelm Grimm, though if it is indeed Grimm, then his visible collar tab is the wrong color. As I understand it, both Wilhelm Grimm and Walter Buch, the two Supreme Judges of the Party Court, wore RL tabs with a black background, not red or purple.

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by Ian Mc » 26 Feb 2019 02:49

@Br. James,

At the time this photograph was taken in 1939 Grimm was wearing the carmine collar tabs, he had previously worn the blue tabs
of the Party Court. I believe a directive in 1937 stated that only Buch could wear the blue RL tabs.

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by Mark Costa » 01 Mar 2019 21:41

Br. James:

Grimm wore 1939 style BLACK Reichsleiter tabs after he retired. He is the only person known to have worn special 1939 style tabs in Black. The black color for retired PL's was abolished with the 1939 styles -- but Grimm obviously changed the rules for himself.

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by Br. James » 01 Mar 2019 23:44

Thanks to you both for adding to my education; much appreciated! If I had thought further about this photo, I might have noticed that the uniforms being worn were pre-1939. The fellow closest to the camera with his back turned appears to be wearing a PL uniform, though without the 1939 revised brassard; Hitler is wearing his pre-war kit, as are all of the SS officers in view. And as an aside, from the closeup of Grimm in profile, he needed a shave, which means that the photo-captured event took place in the late afternoon/early evening!

Thanks again, and cheers!

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Re: An unknown officer

Post by ttvon » 03 Mar 2019 14:34

Thanks!
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Who is the officer in 9 11 1938?


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Re: An unknown officer

Post by goofy » 03 Mar 2019 14:47

It is Heinrich Bennecke.
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