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mapugu
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Re: Hitler 1933

Post by mapugu » 21 Jun 2010 19:29

(Addendum to my posts on 19 Jun 2010, 20:54 and yesterday, 19:25)
march on 9. Nov.1933
in front from left:
Rolf Reiner, unknown man with the blood flag*), Jakob Grimminger, Julius Streicher;
1st row from left:
Theodor Kuhn , Friedrich Weber, Hermann Göring, Adolf Hitler, Hermann Kriebel, Ulrich Graf, Richard Kolb;
2nd row from left:
Hans Streck, Max Sesselmann, Wilhelm Kolb, Alfred Rosenberg, Arno Schickedanz, Gottfried Feder, Walter Schulze);
3rd row from left:
Christian Weber, Robert Wagner,....

*) May be Leonhard Voggenauer, NSDAP-No. 229707/SS-No. 3017, prom. 09.11.1933 SS-Ostubaf.(source SS-DAL 1st July effective 1935 page8/9), who also received blood-order No. 333 with effect from 09.11.1933 - unfortunately I don`t have a pic of him (see also: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34218); but I think he is definitive not Trambauer - if look at him in following pic from Weimar Rally in 1926:
NSDAP-RPT Weimar 3.-4. Juli 1926.JPG
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Re: Hitler 1933

Post by jeffhan373 » 21 Jun 2010 23:29

Here's a clear view of the as-yet unnamed man who carried the Blood Flag in the 1933 November 9 ceremonies, along with the image from "DSK" showing Grimminger with his escorts Voggenauer and Zaske. I'm assuming Voggenauer is the man on Grimminger's right...hard to tell if this is the same man that we see in the 1933 march....
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Re: Hitler 1933

Post by mjölnir » 22 Jun 2010 16:08

Corrected rows! It seems that Hans Streck went from the second row during the march to the first row!

1933 (from left to right):

3. row: Christian Weber, Robert Wagner
2. row: Hans Streck, Max Sesselmann, Wilhelm Kolb, Alfred Rosenberg, Arno Schickedanz, Gottfried Feder, Walter Schulze
1st row: (Hans Streck ,) Theodor Kuhn , Friedrich Weber, Hermann Göring (coat), Adolf Hitler, Hermann Kriebel, Ulrich Graf, Richard Kolb

Rolf Reiner, unknown man with the blood flag, Jakob Grimminger (Reiner and Grimminger in black SS-uniforms)
Julius Streicher


I found that on November 9th, 1923, Heinrich Wilhelm Trambauer was the bearer of the later "blood flag". When he was wounded, he lost the flag. And Andreas Bauriedl - deadly wounded, fell on it. Two other men (Anton Hechenberger and Lorenz Ritter von Stransky - both deadly wounded) fell on the flag.(Source: wikipedia.org).
The book "Gedenkhalle für die Gefallenen des Dritten Reiches" made an error: It says that Andreas Bauriedl was the bearer of the blood flag on November 9th, 1923.

For November 9th, 1923, I found this rows:

Heinrich Wilhelm Trambauer (bearer of the swastika flag (=blood flag) [wounded], Klaus von Pape (bearer of the flag "Bund Oberland") [dead]

In the 1st row: Karl Laforce (1st dead), Erich Ludendorff, Adolf Hitler (injured; arm luxation by falling Scheubner-Richter), Max Erwin von Scheubner-Richter (beneath Hitler) [dead]

In the 2nd row: Theodor von der Pfordten (dead)

More men of the march from November 9th, 1923:

Alfred Rosenberg, Julius Streicher, Hermann Göring (wounded), Gottfried Feder, Wilhelm Brückner, Arno Schickedanz, Ulrich Graf (wounded bei 7 shots), Neubauer (dead), Max Sesselmann (wounded by 3 shots), Oskar Körner (wounded by 2 shots), Felix Allfarth (dead), Johann Rickmers (wounded, died later), Wilhelm Wolf (dead), Wilhelm Ehrlich (dead), Karl Kuhn (dead), Anton Hechenberger (dead) [1st row?], Andreas Bauriedl (dead) [1st row?], Kutebrock, Goreis, Baumgärtner, Eggendorfer,Knörlein, Wilhelm Richter, Robert Remer [all wounded]

The brothers Anton and Heinrich Hechenberger marched together (Heinrich died later by an traffic crash).

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Re: Hitler 1933

Post by mjölnir » 23 Jun 2010 11:10

Here a picture from the memorial march on November 9th, 1938:
source: http://www.br-online.de

Streck (Kuhn hidden), Weber, Sesselman, Göring, Schulze, Rosenberg, Hitler, Schickedanz, Raeder, Brauchitsch, Keitel, (Milch [hidden by the blood flag]), Graf, Kriebel, Kolb
?, Grimminger, ?
Julius Streicher

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Re: Hitler 1933

Post by Mark Costa » 23 Jun 2010 12:18

In the color photo above Bouhler can be seen over Kolb's shoulder. General Hugo Sperrle can be seen behind Sasselmann. Wilhelm Brueckner can be seen behind Streck in the back central area. Bouhler has a tendency to move around in the various marches --sometimes he is back where Brueckner is and other times at the end of the second row.

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Re: Hitler 1933

Post by JonFish » 10 May 2022 21:46

jeffhan373 wrote:
21 Jun 2010 23:29
Here's a clear view of the as-yet unnamed man who carried the Blood Flag in the 1933 November 9 ceremonies, along with the image from "DSK" showing Grimminger with his escorts Voggenauer and Zaske. I'm assuming Voggenauer is the man on Grimminger's right...hard to tell if this is the same man that we see in the 1933 march....
Leonhard Voggenauer is the man to Grimmingers right hand side in the yellowed photo.
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