Walter Hewel
Walter Hewel
Does anyone know exactly when Hewel joined the NSDAP (or DAP) or what number he was? What was Hitlers? Book I'm reading says he joined BEFORE Hitler did even though he was only a teenager (he was born in 1904). Wikipedia ( ) says he was in the 200-300th member number range (quite vague). What was Hitler's number or "range"? Thanks in advance to anyone who may set the record straight here with exact statistical info. I tried to search it on AHF but there is just too many threads to filter through for what may be an easy answer.
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Walter Hewel was member of Stoßtrupp Adolf Hitler on october 1923 and Flag carrier of the Stoßtrupp during Munich Putsch of 1923. But he was not member of DAP. He only join NSDAP on june 1933 (Auslandsorganisation der NSDAP at Bandoung).
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Thankyou Georges...I knew he was in the Putsch, but I thought it a gross exaggeration by this author to say he was in the DAP before Hitler...he also says Hewel served as Hitler's valet in Landsberg. *Book in question is Peter Levenda's "Ratlines". I'm cross-checking what he writes.
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My understanding is that Hewel first joined the NSDAP in the 1920's and re-joined in June 1933 with NSDAP Nr. 3 280 789.J. Duncan wrote:Does anyone know exactly when Hewel joined the NSDAP (or DAP) or what number he was?
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no infos in any files indicate he joined NSDAP in 20's . Just Stosstrupp Adolf Hitler. His blood order is number 90
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no infos in any files indicate he joined NSDAP in 20's . Just Stosstrupp Adolf Hitler. His blood order is number 90
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What is your source that he was no.90?Georges JEROME wrote:Fred,
no infos in any files indicate he joined NSDAP in 20's . Just Stosstrupp Adolf Hitler. His blood order is number 90
Georges
Just trying to find out according to the book The Bunker by James P. O'donnell, Hewel was closely associated with Hitler from the very young days and he held a very low number (in the 200s) but does not give a specific number.
Hewel and Hitler were prisoned together and after a few months he volunteered to be Hitler's valet.
Most books just say he was an early follower of Hitler, there is not a great deal of info on him.
Elizabeth Blanda married him in 1944, the attachment is a photo of the two of them together.
Hitler became the DAP's 55th member and received the number 555, as the DAP added '500' to every member's number to exaggerate the party's strength. He later claimed to be the seventh party member (he was in fact the seventh executive member of the party's central committee; he would later wear the Golden Party Badge number one).
Hitler also resigned and then re-joined the Nazi party in the late 1920's!
Hitler returned to Munich on 11 July and angrily tendered his resignation. The committee members realised his resignation would mean the end of the party. Hitler announced he would rejoin on the condition that he would replace Drexler as party chairman, and that the party headquarters would remain in Munich. The committee agreed; he rejoined the party on 26 July as member 3,680.
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hello William,
in the list of attribution of Blood order dated 9.11.1933 (which is not alphabetical) Hewell appears in rank 90
I check 3 others :
Himmler n° 3
Dietrich n° 10
Schreck n° 349
(source : Klaus Patzwall Das Ehrenzeichen vom 9. november 1923 Militar-Verlag Klaus D. Patzwall)
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in the list of attribution of Blood order dated 9.11.1933 (which is not alphabetical) Hewell appears in rank 90
I check 3 others :
Himmler n° 3
Dietrich n° 10
Schreck n° 349
(source : Klaus Patzwall Das Ehrenzeichen vom 9. november 1923 Militar-Verlag Klaus D. Patzwall)
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Levenda uses O'Donnel's "Bunker" as a source (thanks Safety-First for the lead in looking this up)...at least he got his info from a known source but where O'Donnel got this info from is not in his book.
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in my sources there is the referenced book of Hans-Jürgen Döscher "SS und Auswärtiges Amt im Dritten Reich" which give a bio of Hewel who refer to BDC Pers.-Akten.
Personal records of the SS are the ultimate source.
Georges
Personal records of the SS are the ultimate source.
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I'm more inclined to believe the statistical reports of the files Georges and other experts cite (who can read these in their original german) than the fanciful imaginings of sensationalist authors. From what I can determine from the above exchange, Hewel was involved in the early NSDAP, perhaps firstly on a casual level then as an active participant of the Putsch. He did not pre-date Hitler into the Party as Levenda and O'Donnel claim. I believe he would have been just too young for that, and his file does not show this to be true. He was photographed with the Putsch Trial participants, as proven in one the other NSDAP threads, so he was definately a Stosstrupp member for sure. I think I got the answer I was seeking, and that the author Levenda (perhaps unintentionally from his source O'Donnel) is repeating an untruth.
Georges: In the Stosstrupp info where you cite he joined the NSDAP in 1933, where is "Bandoung"? I'm wondering if he joined the NSDAP while he was in Indonesia?...it's probably a German city or town but it sounds strange to my ears. Plus, it is mentioned along with "Auslandsorganisation". Thanks.
Georges: In the Stosstrupp info where you cite he joined the NSDAP in 1933, where is "Bandoung"? I'm wondering if he joined the NSDAP while he was in Indonesia?...it's probably a German city or town but it sounds strange to my ears. Plus, it is mentioned along with "Auslandsorganisation". Thanks.
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He was released on 30 dec 1924. He worked for a import/export firm from feb 25. he spent 1 year in GB to improve his English language then work for the Anglo-Dutch Plantations of Java Ltd in Dutsch Eastg India on 27 as executive planting assistant.
he joined in june 1933. he was dezernent of the AO-Ortsgruppe Bandung (Ausland Organisation of the NSDAP). 1.34 - 5.35 Wirtschaftsstellenleiter der NSDAP Orstgruppe Bandung. He became on 3 .35 Pressereferent der AO-Landesgruppe Niederländisch-Indien .
When he came back to germany after travelling in 1936 he became Gauhaupstellenleiter in Ostasianreferat der AO der NSDAP in Berlin .
(sources : Phil files, Koop Die Auslands-Organisation der NSDAP, DÖrscher SS und Auswartiges Amt im Dritten Reich)
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he joined in june 1933. he was dezernent of the AO-Ortsgruppe Bandung (Ausland Organisation of the NSDAP). 1.34 - 5.35 Wirtschaftsstellenleiter der NSDAP Orstgruppe Bandung. He became on 3 .35 Pressereferent der AO-Landesgruppe Niederländisch-Indien .
When he came back to germany after travelling in 1936 he became Gauhaupstellenleiter in Ostasianreferat der AO der NSDAP in Berlin .
(sources : Phil files, Koop Die Auslands-Organisation der NSDAP, DÖrscher SS und Auswartiges Amt im Dritten Reich)
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Thanks Georges - Duncan
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As former members they wear the white armband "Stoßtrupp Adolf Hitler 1923" and old cap (this armband was introduced on 25th may 1936)
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