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OSAF 1933

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Post by honordagger » 02 Jul 2020, 19:56

Gentlemen,
I`m looking for information on OSAF members as of the end of 1933. Information that I`ve found refers mostly to 1934 and looks very controversial. Obviously it is due to staff changes after the night of long knives. I`d appreciate if anyone can share a complete list of OSAF members 1933 or OSAF structure chart. Also apart from Adjutantur there were “SA leaders with the Chief of Staff” (SA-Führer beim Chef des Stabes) Can anyone advise what were those people in charge of?

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Re: OSAF 1933

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Post by von thoma » 03 Jul 2020, 18:27

OSAF ( Oberster SA-Führer ) since 1920 until 1945

Emil Maurice, 1920-1921
Hans Ulrich Klintzsch, 1921-1923
Hermann Göring, February 1923-November 1923
Franz Pfeffer von Salomon, 1923-1930
Adolf Hitler, 1923-1945, Hitler retains the title until the end.
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Re: OSAF 1933

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Post by Br. James » 03 Jul 2020, 21:27

As I understand it, Franz Pfeffer von Salomon was not the last person to hold the rank of OSAF; that person was Dr. Otto Wagener. Pfeffer resigned the position of OSAF on 9/1/30, at the end of the so-called 'Stennes Revolt,' and in Pfeffer's place Hitler appointed Pfeffer's adjutant, Wagener, to hold that position from 10/1/30 until the arrival of Ernst Röhm from Bolivia. Röhm took up his new position -- as SA Chief of Staff -- on 1/1/31, at which time Wagener stepped aside, having been acting OSAF for three months.

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Post by von thoma » 03 Jul 2020, 21:45

having been acting OSAF for three months.
According to my source Dr. Otto Wagener was only appointed as Stabschef, but not received, in no official way, the OSAF commander title.
Therefore, it is not listed.
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Re: OSAF 1933

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Post by Br. James » 03 Jul 2020, 22:35

I refer to page 151 of "Leaders of the Storm Troops," Volume 1, by Michael D. Miller and Andreas Schulz (Helion & Company, 2015), in the biographical section for Otto Wilhelm Heinrich Wagener, wherein is this listing for him:
"29.08.1930--31.12.1930: Obersten SA-Führer (m.d.W.d.G.b.). Succeeded by Adolf Hitler."

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Re: OSAF 1933

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Post by honordagger » 07 Jul 2020, 13:21

Gentlemen,
thanks a lot for your information. I`m also interested in OSAF staff members as of the end 1933 i.e the heads of departments subordinate to the Chief of Staff. I wonder if anyone has a full OSAF structure with names of SA-Leaders responsible for different units within OSAF. I`ve studied Fisher`s reference books and other sources available in internet and see some differences. If someone has come across such information and knows where to look it for, I`d be thankful for your help.

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