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Post by Br. James » 29 Oct 2022 19:28

"Dortmund, 09.07.1933: “Aufmarsch der SA-Gruppe Westfalen” in Dortmund (also known as the “SA-
Westfalentreffen”). Left to right: Josef Wagner, Schepmann, unknown, Hitler, Adolf Hühnlein (behind the Führer), and Viktor Lutze."

Hi Mike,

Thanks for adding this further detail. One question: Do you not agree that that person who is visible between Schepmann and Hitler is Max Jüttner?

Many thanks, as always,

Br. James

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Post by Michael Miller » 29 Oct 2022 20:27

Br. James wrote:
29 Oct 2022 19:28
"Dortmund, 09.07.1933: “Aufmarsch der SA-Gruppe Westfalen” in Dortmund (also known as the “SA-
Westfalentreffen”). Left to right: Josef Wagner, Schepmann, unknown, Hitler, Adolf Hühnlein (behind the Führer), and Viktor Lutze."

Hi Mike,

Thanks for adding this further detail. One question: Do you not agree that that person who is visible between Schepmann and Hitler is Max Jüttner?

Many thanks, as always,

Br. James
Jüttner did not hold SA membership at the time the photo was taken (9 July 1933). He joined at the request of Ernst Röhm on 1 November 1933, at the same time assuming the function of Wehrstahlhelmführer der SA which he held until the 30th of the month. He was then, from 01.12.1933 to 20.09.1934, assigned as Leiter of the Abteilung Ausbildung und Organisation (Department for Training and Organization) in the Führungsamt im Stab der Obersten SA-Führung (München). Here is a listing of his SA promotions:

01.11.1933 SA-Brigadeführer (per SA-Führerbefehl Nr. 20, 01.12.1933)
20.04.1935 SA-Gruppenführer
09.11.1937 SA-Obergruppenführer
02.05.1943-18.08.1943 “mit der Wahrnehmung der Geschäfte des Stabschefs der SA beauftragt”

Much new information on him- and some great photos- in the upcoming 2nd edition of my and Andreas Schulz's Leaders of the Storm Troops, Volume 1.

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Post by Br. James » 30 Oct 2022 00:17

Hi Mike,

Thanks so much for providing the missing info on Jüttner -- info I needed to rule him out of that photo! The person seen between Schepmann and Hitler looks so much like Jüttner that I didn't look further, and even the current Volume 1 of "Leaders of the Storm Troops" doesn't include Jüttner -- it ends with Rudolf Jordan! So I am looking forward to the new Volume 1 that you described.

So, who could that person wearing the goggles on his SA kepi have been?

Blessings, my friend,

Br. James

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Post by Michael Miller » 30 Oct 2022 01:04

Br. James wrote:
30 Oct 2022 00:17
Hi Mike,

Thanks so much for providing the missing info on Jüttner -- info I needed to rule him out of that photo! The person seen between Schepmann and Hitler looks so much like Jüttner that I didn't look further, and even the current Volume 1 of "Leaders of the Storm Troops" doesn't include Jüttner -- it ends with Rudolf Jordan! So I am looking forward to the new Volume 1 that you described.

So, who could that person wearing the goggles on his SA kepi have been?

Blessings, my friend,

Br. James
Jüttner does appear in the first edition of Leaders of the Storm Troops, Volume 1- in the first section (pp. 217-228) because of his brief service as acting Stabschef after Lutze's death.

I'm cutting the "H" and "J" names for the second edition because I've vastly expanded the biographies for the OSAFS and Stabschef + SA-Ogruf. (Beckerle to Günther). Volume 2 will cover all SA-Ogruf. from "H" through "P". I went a little nuts on Göring... his biography alone will number about 125 pages with ca. 275 photos.

Don't know about the goggled fellow, but I'm thinking he might be NSKK-- possibly an Oberführer.

~ Mike

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Post by Mark Costa » 30 Oct 2022 04:42

Br James and Mike:

The man in question is later NSKK Gruppenfuhrer George Walthausen.

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Post by Andrey » 30 Oct 2022 09:46

Mark Costa wrote:
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Br James and Mike:

The man in question is later NSKK Gruppenfuhrer George Walthausen.

Mark Costa
Agree, Mark!
Best,

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 30 Oct 2022 14:15

Many thanks guys

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Post by Michael Miller » 30 Oct 2022 15:13

Mark Costa wrote:
30 Oct 2022 04:42
Br James and Mike:

The man in question is later NSKK Gruppenfuhrer George Walthausen.

Mark Costa
Bingo! Well done as always, Mark.

Best wishes,
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Post by Br. James » 30 Oct 2022 17:32

"The man in question is later NSKK Gruppenfuhrer George Walthausen."

A very good match -- many thanks, Mark!

Br. James

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Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 03 Nov 2022 15:42

Who is this NSDAP official in Dresden? Photo taken on 13 August 1939.
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Post by mattyboy » 10 Nov 2022 01:07

Hi all,
Belated thanks to Igor for identifying Hans Kolbe for me a while back. Now I have a new request - can anybody identify this man please?
Thanks,
Matt.
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Post by Mark Costa » 10 Nov 2022 04:48

mattyboy wrote:
10 Nov 2022 01:07
Hi all,
Belated thanks to Igor for identifying Hans Kolbe for me a while back. Now I have a new request - can anybody identify this man please?
Thanks,
Matt.

This photo is of SA-Obergruppenführer Hans Ludin.

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Post by mattyboy » 10 Nov 2022 23:46

Many thanks Mark!

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Post by Michael Miller » 11 Nov 2022 03:49

mattyboy wrote:
10 Nov 2022 01:07
Hi all,
Belated thanks to Igor for identifying Hans Kolbe for me a while back. Now I have a new request - can anybody identify this man please?
Thanks,
Matt.
May I ask the source for this exceptional image of Ludin?

Best wishes,
~ Mike

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Post by Br. James » 11 Nov 2022 16:51

This photo of SA-Obergruppenführer Hans Ludin is interesting -- he appears to have been wearing an expandable band or strap around his kepi, which was disfiguring the entire cap. Does anyone know what that was about? That kepi band appears to have been held in place by the button on the front of the cap.

Br. James

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