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#31

Post by Andreas Schulz » 22 Nov 2003, 10:40

ROUILLE wrote:oups !!! here is the list
ACKERMANN, Josef (26/04/1905)
ADAM, Fritz (11/10/1909)
ALMS, Ernst (11/04/1892)
Von ALVENSLEBEN, Bodo (12/10/1882)
ASCHKA, Wilhelm (30/01/1900)
ASTER, Richard (11/03/1900)
AURAND, Fritz (07/02/1898)
BACHMANN, Johann (24/09/1907)
BAND, Viktor (04/12/1897)
BARTELS, Friedrich (21/07/1892)
BAUER, Robert (09/09/1898)
BAUMGARTNER, Hans (04/10/1900) Dr
BEHNERT, Heinz (26/12/1908)
BEHRENDT, Erich (22/05/1904)
BEISSNER, Ernst (15/04/1902)
BELZNER, Hans (30/03/1892)
BENDAK, Leo (10/02/1907)
BENING, Friedrich (23/01/1895)
BERGER, Kurt (25/07/1910)
BETHKE, Friedrich-Wilhelm (15/07/1903)
BEYER, Bernhard (26/12/1896)
BIEDERER, Georg (21/09/1900)
BISCHOFF, Ernst (23/12/1895)
BLUM, Bernhard (01/05/1896)
BOCK, Franz (28/06/1905)
BOESE, Konrad (30/01/1896)
BREITMEYER, Arno (19/04/1903)
BRUGGER, Albrecht (09/11/1895)
BRUNK, Hermann (26/01/1895)
BUHLER, Josef (1904-1948) Executé.
BUSSE, Eduard (16/02/1898)
CASPARY, Karl (21/08/1898)
CHRISTENSEN, Oluf (13/05/1904)
CLAUSSEN, Ernst (31/05/1891)
CRAMER, Hans (23/09/1904)
CRONEISS, Theo (28/12/1894)
DAHLEM, Raimund (29/03/1904)
DAHMS, Friedrich (12/01/1894)
Von DELIUS, Friedrich (03/06/1881)
DEMME, Reinhold (15/11/1892)
DETTMER, Wilhelm (29/05/1900)
DIEHL, Richard (14/08/1902)
DITTLER, Wilhelm (28/07/1899)
DORNEMANN, Karl-Friedrich (29/01/1901)
DORR, Paul (18/02/1900)
DORSCH, Eugen (31/07/1896)
DORSCH, Franz-Xaver (24/12/1899)
DRECHSLER, Otto-Heinrich (01/04/1895-04/05/1945)
DUCKWITZ, Hans (16/03/1903)
DUREIN, Adam (18/01/1893)
DZWIZA, Georg (17/01/1899)
EBELING, Paul (16/06/1893)
EICHINGER, Friedrich (13/02/1900)
EHLEBEN, Otto (09/06/1892)
ENDE, Gottfried (03/07/1891)
ERNST, Erich (24/03/1889)
ESCHER, Franz (12/06/1908)
ESDERS, Gunther (07/02/1898)
ETTERICH, Arthur (08/03/1894)
FEICHTMAYR, Josef (12/11/1901)
FIEBING, Hermann (17/11/1901)
FICKEL, Kurt (03/10/1890) (FIEKEL) Dr
FIEDLER, Richard (24/04/1908-14/12/1974) KVKII /SS-Brif
FINK, Peter (22/03/1900)
FISCHER, Hugo (17/01/1902)
FISCHER, Wilhelm (09/09/1901)
FRANK, Emil (14/02/1898)
FRENZEL, Ernst (25/10/1904)
FROHWEIN, Otto (27/03/1899)
FRUNDT, Theodor (19/03/1897)
FUCKERT, Fritz (15/07/1905)
FURHOLZER, Ludwig (22/09/1893)
GANZ, Hellmut (22/05/1906)
GANZENMULLER, Theodor-Albert (25/02/1906-00/00/1987) RKVKS
GEISSELBRECHT, Friedrich (16/10/1895)
GELLERT, Georg (31/05/1895)
GENGNAGGEL, Ernst (09/04/1903)
GESSERT, Ferdinand (11/04/1885)
GLASOW, Arnold (03/06/1905)
GLUCK, Hans (18/08/1898)
GORLITZ, Julius (01/01/1889)
GOHDES, Otto (17/12/1896)
Von GROLMAN, Wilhelm (16/07/1894)
HAGER, Heinrich (07/12/1893)
Von HALDENZWANG, Otto (30/12/1896)
HAUER, Daniel (17/02/1879)
HERWIG, Adalbert (05/04/1901)
HILMEYER, Hans (28/03/1890)
HORN, Karl (12/02/1908)
HUBER, Franz (10/01/1894) (HUEBER)
IVERS, Otto (12/01/1895)
JAKOBSEN, Karl (18/12/1896)
KLAHN, Friedrich-Joachim (08/12/1895)
KLEMM, Willi (09/03/1892-01/07/1934) Exécuté.
KOCH, Hans (17/10/1897-01/07/1934) Exécuté.
KOGLMAIER, Max (20/04/1902)
KOLLNER, Fritz (05/05/1904)
KORNER, Karl (06/08/1897)
KULS, Friedrich-Adolf (22/02/1897)
LAMPE, Heinz (14/01/1896)
LEHMANN, Max (07/09/1892)
LINSMAYER, Max (01/01/1907)
LINZ, Karl (09/08/1891)
LUCKE, Karl (11/09/1889)
MANDERBACH, Richard (21/05/1889)
MARNITZ, Meinhard (05/12/1902)
MARXER, Otto (27/12/1896)
MAY, Rudolf (05/10/1902)
MERGENTHALER, Christian (08/11/1884-11/09/1980)
MILLER, Albert (03/06/1900)
Von NEUFVILLE, Georg (27/10/1883)
NIBBE, Walther (31/08/1900)
NOTZELMANN, Erwin (14/03/1907)
OPPERMANN, Theodor (18/11/1899)
OVERHUES, Carl (17/11/1886)
PASCHOLD, Fritz (26/03/1888)
PLORIN, Eugen (08/10/1901)
RABE, Paul-Arthur (20/11/1903)
RAMSHORN, Hans (17/03/1892)
RAPPELL, Franz (07/11/1895)
RAU, Georg (03/06/1892)
SCHLEICH, Carl-Ludwig (03/04/1899)
SCHMIDT, Gustav (08/10/1898)
SCHMUCK, Ludwig (13/06/1892)
SCHUG, Peter (19/10/1906)
SEIFERT, Hellmuth (28/06/1908)
SOEST, Heinrich (17/09/1899)
SUCHENWIRTH, Richard (08/10/1896)[/quote]

ASTER, Richard (11/03/1900) = Gruf.
BEISSNER, Ernst (15/04/1902) = Gruf.
BOCK, Franz (28/06/1905) = Ogruf.
DORNEMANN, Karl-Friedrich (29/01/1901) = Gruf.
IVERS, Otto (12/01/1895) = Gruf.
KOGLMAIER, Max (20/04/1902) = Gruf.
LINSMAYER, Max (01/01/1907) = Gruf.
LUCKE, Karl (11/09/1889) = Gruf.
MARNITZ, Meinhard (05/12/1902) = Gruf.
MARXER, Otto (27/12/1896) = Ogruf.
MERGENTHALER, Christian (08/11/1884-11/09/1980) = Ogruf.
Von NEUFVILLE, Georg (27/10/1883) = Gruf.
NIBBE, Walther (31/08/1900) = Ogruf.

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#32

Post by Jérôme » 22 Nov 2003, 13:18

Thanks AnDie,
I'll make corrections to this list;
Regards
J.ROUILLE


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#33

Post by Phil Nix » 23 Nov 2003, 13:30

Some more SA Brif
Fritz Görnert 30.1.41 b 18.3.07
Karl Gutenberger 20.4.36 b 18.4.05
Jakob Ganzmeier ? b 30.5.40
Wilhelm Gress 30.1.42 b 23.3.85
Wilhelm Haas 20.4.44 b 30.10.00
Friedrich Habenicht 20.4.33 b 6.6.96
Alfred Hagemann 20.4.44 b 11.5.01
Georg Haberkern 9.11.43 b 4.4.99
Erich Hagenmeyer 20.4.36 21.8.92
Otto von Haldenwang 1.5.37 30.12.36
Daniel Hauer 1.7.33 b 17.2.79
Hans Hauswald 9.11.40 b 22.8.06
Heinrich Hager ? b 7.12.93
Konrad Häfner 1.10.33 b 5.10.85 Former SS Oberführer
Karl Heck 30.1.39 b 23.6.07
Harald von Hedemann 20.4.44 b 22.9.87
Wilhelm Heerde 1.3.34 b 21.9.98
Albrecht Heinrich 20.4.44 b 15.8.03
Willy Henke 5.8.43 b 26.10.02
Walter Hertzer 9.11.40 b 13.10.02
Adalbert Herwig 20.4.35 b 5.4.01
Dr Eugen Hessler 30.1.38 b 14.1.82
Erich Heuer 30.1.37 b 15.4.79
Bruno Hilber 9.11.42 b 1`6.2.97
Hans Hillmeyer 1.5.37 b 28.3.90
Dr Karl Hock 30.1.38 b 10.10.91
Arthur Hofmann 9.11.38 b 6.5.98
Erich Hofmann 9.11.40 b 20.4.01
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#34

Post by Andreas Schulz » 23 Nov 2003, 18:23

philmil wrote:Some more SA Brif

Jakob Ganzmeier ? b 30.5.40
...
Heinrich Hager ? b 7.12.93


Philmil
Jakob Gansmeier 30.01.1942 SA-Brif., born 30.05.1900 (Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub)
Heinrich Hager 01.07.1933 SA-Brif.

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Post by Jérôme » 24 Nov 2003, 13:19

Hi, AnDie and Phil
Jakob Ganmeier 30.01.1942 SA-Brif., born 30.05.1900 (Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub) N°568 awarded on02/09/1944 as major d.R.,Kdr.Div.Füs.Btl.212 and dead near Erdli/kurland 08/08/1944

Are we sure that :
HOLZ, Karl (27/12/1895-20/04/1945) was SA-Gruf ?
JAHN, Wilhelm (02/02/1891) SA-ogruf ?
LITZMANN, Karl-Siegmund (01/08/1893) SAOgruf ??
LUYKEN, Max-Otto (16/10/1885) SA-Ogruf ?
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ROUILLE

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#36

Post by Andreas Schulz » 24 Nov 2003, 13:28

ROUILLE wrote:Hi, AnDie and Phil
Jakob Ganmeier 30.01.1942 SA-Brif., born 30.05.1900 (Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub) N°568 awarded on02/09/1944 as major d.R.,Kdr.Div.Füs.Btl.212 and dead near Erdli/kurland 08/08/1944

Are we sure that :
HOLZ, Karl (27/12/1895-20/04/1945) was SA-Gruf ?
JAHN, Wilhelm (02/02/1891) SA-ogruf ?
LITZMANN, Karl-Siegmund (01/08/1893) SAOgruf ??
LUYKEN, Max-Otto (16/10/1885) SA-Ogruf ?
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ROUILLE
Holz 09.11.1942 Gruf.
Jahn 09.11.1937 Ogruf.
Litzmann 27.06.1933 Ogruf.
Luyken 09.11.1937 Ogruf.

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Re: SA-Brif.

#37

Post by Phil Nix » 24 Nov 2003, 13:34

AnDie wrote:
philmil wrote:Some more SA Brif

Jakob Ganzmeier ? b 30.5.40
...
Heinrich Hager ? b 7.12.93


Philmil
Jakob Gansmeier 30.01.1942 SA-Brif., born 30.05.1900 (Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub)
Heinrich Hager 01.07.1933 SA-Brif.

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Thks Andreas and Rouille
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Post by Phil Nix » 24 Nov 2003, 13:55

More SA BF
Hans-Heinrich Hofrichter 29.3.43 b 29.3.63
Heinrich Hohm 30.1.41 b 1.11.81
Dr Rudolf Holtgrave 30.1.41 b 21.7.06 Insp San Wesen stab OSAF 1944
Walter Holzmüller 20.4.44 b 9.1.93
Ernst Horn 9.11.42 b 15.3.05
Dr Gerhard Horn 9.11.37 b 9.7.92
Karl Horn 9.11.38 b 12.12.98
Hans Höflmayer 9.11.38 b 7.8.93
Dr Theo Höft 30.1.41 b 23.10.01
Erich Hövel 9,11.44 b??
Heinz Huwerth 30.1.40 b 3.6.00 Stabsführer Gruppe Oberrhein 1944Ffanz
Eugen Hübbe 30.1.41 b 24.5.06 Stabsführer Gruppe Sudeten 1944
Franz Hueber 12.3.38 b 10.1.94
Karl Jacobsen 9.11.37 b 18.12.96
August Jäger 20.4.44 b 21.8.87
Franz-Werner Jänke 30.1.38 b 4.4.05
Georg Joel 9.11.37 b 8.8.98
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#39

Post by Andreas Schulz » 25 Nov 2003, 01:40

philmil wrote:More SA BF

Erich Hövel 9,11.44 b??

Philmil
Hi Phil,

Erich Hoevel was born 12.05.1898. Was he the brother of SA-Gruppenführer Walter Hoevel (born 20.08.1894)? Both of them were born in Wesel. Do you know it?

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#40

Post by Jérôme » 26 Nov 2003, 13:15

HI,
Were they SA or SS ?

-Ogruf Paul SIMON born 18/02/1908
-Gruf Wilhelm Von SCHORLEMER Born ???
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Post by Andreas Schulz » 26 Nov 2003, 13:22

ROUILLE wrote:HI,
Were they SA or SS ?

-Ogruf Paul SIMON born 18/02/1908
-Gruf Wilhelm Von SCHORLEMER Born ???
Regards
ROUILLE
Schorlemer was SA-Ogruf. See my list of Ogruf. http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... sc&start=0
He was born 25.05.1888.

Paul Simon was SS-Oberführer.

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#42

Post by Phil Nix » 30 Nov 2003, 13:31

AnDie wrote:
philmil wrote:More SA BF

Erich Hövel 9,11.44 b??

Philmil
Hi Phil,

Erich Hoevel was born 12.05.1898. Was he the brother of SA-Gruppenführer Walter Hoevel (born 20.08.1894)? Both of them were born in Wesel. Do you know it?

AnDie
Hi Andreas
I do not know but if the birthplace is the same then I think it is possible. I believe I am using the same source as you for my lists
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Post by Phil Nix » 30 Nov 2003, 13:40

Karl Jostmeier 30.1.41 b 22.4.99
Philipp Jung 9.11.40 b 16.9.84
Kurt Kapp 30.1.41 b 19.7.87
Alfons Karbinsky 9.11.44 b 23.11.03
Kuert Kaergel 9.11.37 b 11.9.01
Hans von keiser 9.11.43 b 29.11.74
Ernst Keller 1.5.37 b 11.1.00
Eberhard Kergel 9.11.35 b 1.4.03
Ludwig Kerth 20.4.44 b 2.1.00 Captured in Africa
Wilhelm Kicker 30.1.41 b 14.2.98
Dr Fritz Kieser 20.4.36 b 2.10.88
Walter Kirchhof 9.11.42 b 16.2.94
Friedrich Klähn 9.11.38 b 8.12.95
Dr Karl Klause 30.1.39 b 16.7.82
Dr Hans Klein 30.1.42 b 18.5.98
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#44

Post by chrish » 02 Dec 2003, 17:17

Peter von Heydebreck (chef SA in Pommern) was SA-Brigadefuhrer (probably promoted 20.4.1934)

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#45

Post by Jérôme » 03 Dec 2003, 22:55

As for me he was promted SA-Gruf in 1933
who gets more ???

other question :
what is the SA-rank of Josef WASMER born 02/04/1902 Führer SA-Brigade 54 ?

same thing about :
Werner STIEHR born 03/05/1905 Führer SA-Standarte 213 in 1939

Heinrich WIESE STAF SS 12/11/1933 and in 1943 SA-Obf ????

Wilhelm SCHROEDER born 23/04/1898 SA-Staf and SS-Staf ????

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