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Post by chrish » 01 Jan 2004 01:28

First SA-O'Gruf looks like as Hitler's adjutant Brückner ... a tour of the city?

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Post by Georges JEROME » 01 Jan 2004 10:01

chrish wrote:Frank and unknown GG Hitlerjugend-Führer.



the creation of HJ units inside GG was conducted by HJ Gebietsführer BLUM.
in 1943 the HJ Gebiete 44 "Generalgouvernenement" was created under leading of Hauptbannführer SCHIMMELPFENNING

may be one of them.

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HJ

Post by Andreas Schulz » 01 Jan 2004 10:42

Eckardt Schimmelpfennig 07.12.1943 Chef der Befehlsstelle Generalgouvernement (für die Dauer des Krieges)

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sa

Post by rbea » 05 Jan 2004 09:33

hello
can somebody post the chain of command for the sa in the generalgovernment?
thanks in advance,rbea

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hitler's order creating the generalgovernment

Post by rbea » 19 Jan 2004 14:42

here is hitler's order of 12/10/39 creating the generalgovernment

1939 reichsgesetzblatt, part I, page 2077
generalgovernment


1.Administration

Decree of the fuhrer and reich chancellor concerning the administration of the ocupied Polish teritories, october 12,1939

In order to restore and maintainpublic order and public life in the occupied Polish territories, i order:
Section I
The territories occupied by German troops shall be subjected to the autority of the governor general of the occupied Polish territories, except in so far as they are incorporated within the German reich.
SectionII
1. I appoint reich minister Dr. Hans Frank as governor general of the occupied Polish territories.
2. As deputy governor general i appoint reich minister Dr. Seyss-Inquart.
Section III
1. The governor general shall be directly responsable to me.
2. All branches of the administration shall be directed by thr governor general.
Section IV
The laws at present in force shall remain in force, except so far as they are in comflict with the taking over of the administration by the German reich.
Section V
1. The cabinet councilfor reich defence, the commisioner for the four-year plan, and the governor general may legislate by decree.
2. The decrees shall be promulgated in the Verordnungsblatt fuer die besetzten Polonischen gebiete.
Section VI
The chairman of the cabinet council for reich and commisioner for the four year plan, and also the supreme reich autorities, may make the arrangements required for the planning of German life and the German economic sphere with respect to the territories subject to the autority of the governor general.
Section VII
1. The cost of administration shall be borne by the occupied territory.
2. The governor general shall draft a budget. The budget shall require the approval of the reich minister of finance.
Section VIII
1. The central autority for the occupied Polish territories shall be the reich minister of the interior.
2. The administrative decrees required for the implementing of the present decree shall be issued by the reich minister of the interior.
Section IX
1. The present decree shall come inti force as soon as and to the extent to which i withdraw the order given to the commander in chief of the army for the exercise of military administration.
2. Autority for the exercise of executive power shall be the subject of special provisions


Berlib, october 12, 1939 ADOLF HITLER
fuhrer and reich chancsllor

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Re: sa

Post by Andreas Schulz » 20 Jan 2004 09:52

rbea wrote:hello
can somebody post the chain of command for the sa in the generalgovernment?
thanks in advance,rbea


Kurt Peltz
01.07.1942 - 30.09.1942 kommissarisch mit der Führung der Geschäfte des Stabsführers des SA-Führungsstabes im Generalgouvernement beauftragt, 01.10.1942 - 31.01.1943 mit der Führung der Geschäfte des Stabsführers des SA-Führungsstabes im Generalgouvernement beauftragt, 01.02.1943 - 00.05.1944 Stabsführer des Führungsstabes der SA im Generalgouvernement (Krakau)

Willi Künemund
00.05.1944 Stabsführer des Führungsstabes der SA im Generalgouvernement

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sa in generalgovernment

Post by rbea » 20 Jan 2004 19:03

hello,
many thanks to andie for his posting about the sa in the generalgovernment.
however i will be thankful to know further the organization of the sa:
1.was the sa there organized as an obergruppe?
2.was hans frank the obergruppenfuhrer?
3.what were the sa sub unites there?
thanks in advance,rbea

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Post by chrish » 25 Jan 2004 09:47

Peltz, Kurt geb. Sundwig 05.04.1907. 09.11.1936 SA-Standartenführer, 30.01.1941 SA-Oberführer (OSAF), 17.12.1941 Führer der Wehrschützenbereitschaften im Generalgouvernement, 01.07.1942 zum SA-Führungsstab im Generalgouvernement versetzt

Hans Frank , SA-Ogruf seit 9.11.1937 (?)

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thanks

Post by rbea » 25 Jan 2004 10:12

thank you chrish
greetings,rbea

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symbol

Post by rbea » 26 Jan 2004 14:23

hello,
does the generalgovernment had an official symbol? can somebody to post it here on the forum?
thanks in advance,rbea

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Post by Georges JEROME » 30 Jan 2004 01:50

I own several books upon Generalgouvernement from 40's
no one show any symbols

Generalgouvernement had a down status in regard of Protektorat because there is not polish gouvernement :
polish people serve in various administration (post, railways, police...) but not at leading post.
The organisation of GG is made by german and for german interest.
polish where here to serve and not to lead.
politically Generalgouvernement was an "arbeitsbereich der NSDAP"

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thanks

Post by rbea » 30 Jan 2004 12:33

thank you jerome for your help
greetings,rbea

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Post by Nila MadhaVa » 16 Feb 2004 08:51

all this info is mind bogeling (sp)...my german is not good...actually it is non existant...so most of the organizational names and ranks and positions and such mean nothing to me...which is a shame coz im very interested in this topic...perhaps it can be made general practice on this forum that after any german or foreign words that are not blatently obviouse an english equivelent can be given in bracets...just for the uneducated like me...just a suggestion.

but apart from that...all this info is great...keep up the good work.

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Post by Phil Nix » 18 Feb 2004 12:24

Nila MadhaVa wrote:all this info is mind bogeling (sp)...my german is not good...actually it is non existant...so most of the organizational names and ranks and positions and such mean nothing to me...which is a shame coz im very interested in this topic...perhaps it can be made general practice on this forum that after any german or foreign words that are not blatently obviouse an english equivelent can be given in bracets...just for the uneducated like me...just a suggestion.

but apart from that...all this info is great...keep up the good work.

I am sure if you posted a short list of your needs we would be able to help. Send me a private message to start you off
Philmil

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Post by Nila MadhaVa » 19 Feb 2004 05:11

thanks for the offer...i will take you up on it some time....im a bit out of time atm....thanks anyways.

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