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Hitler's money

Post by Dan » 09 Aug 2002 14:32

Documentary shows Hitler soothed 'tortured soul' with riches
By Steven Erlanger
Berlin
August 9 2002





Adolf Hitler died a rich man. The German leader liked money, both for the luxuries it bought him and the loyalties it ensured, and he amassed a lot of it, a German television documentary says.

Despite the continuing fascination with Hitler since his suicide on April 30, 1945, until now little attention has been paid to his personal finances.

Abstemious in his public image, Hitler liked to live grandly.

He paid much attention to his income from his own writing and from the copyright fees for his photographs, said Ingo Helm, 47, a freelance journalist and film maker who spent more than a year making Hitler's Money, to be shown this month on a state-owned station.

"Hitler saw himself as an unrecognised genius, and in order to change this situation he was very interested in power, money and social advancement," Mr Helm said yesterday. "All this was balsam for the tortured soul of the unrecognised genius."


Hitler described at great length his poverty and hardship as a struggling artist in Vienna before World War I, although he had a small inheritance. His poverty embarrassed him deeply.

In Mein Kampf, from which he would make millions, he emphasised the struggle for existence of the "upstart" who had risen "by his own efforts from his previous position in life to a higher one", which "kills all pity" and destroys "feeling for the misery of those who have remained behind".

As the historian Ian Kershaw notes, such feelings put "into context his professed interest in 'the social question' while he was in Vienna", which turned into a search for scapegoats to explain his own destitution. It may also help explain Hitler's affection for wealth.

But Hitler also spent millions in lavish gifts and payments to buy the loyalty of politicians and businessmen and to keep them dependent on him, Helm said.

"Influenced by his propaganda, I thought of Hitler as someone who wasn't selfish," Helm said.

"I knew he was a criminal but it surprised me to know that he was rich."

After the war, the Allied Control Commission gave Hitler's property and assets to the state of Bavaria as he had no children.

Although Hitler died without immediate heirs, his late half-sister, Angela Raubal, had children, and other descendants of his mother live in northern Austria.

The heirs had asked Werner Maser, a popular German historian of the Nazi period, to look into their rights. In particular, the heirs argued that copyright cannot be expropriated in the way physical property can.

They wanted the royalty income.

But the heirs disagreed among themselves, Helm said, and did not file a lawsuit to obtain the royalties.

New York Times


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/ ... 89238.html

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Re: Hitler's money

Post by Ovidius » 09 Aug 2002 17:24

Dan wrote:In Mein Kampf, from which he would make millions, he emphasised the struggle for existence of the "upstart" who had risen "by his own efforts from his previous position in life to a higher one", which "kills all pity" and destroys "feeling for the misery of those who have remained behind".



Income from Mein Kampf were about RM 13,000 to RM 25,000 per year, which is not quite a huge amount of money(a BMW 326 sold for RM 5500).

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Post by Starinov » 09 Aug 2002 18:13

Ovidius wrote:
Dan wrote:In Mein Kampf, from which he would make millions, he emphasised the struggle for existence of the "upstart" who had risen "by his own efforts from his previous position in life to a higher one", which "kills all pity" and destroys "feeling for the misery of those who have remained behind".



Income from Mein Kampf were about RM 13,000 to RM 25,000 per year, which is not quite a huge amount of money(a BMW 326 sold for RM 5500).

~Ovidius

was it considered a luxury car or no?

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well..

Post by Illion » 09 Aug 2002 18:36

As I recall Hitler used to be on many if not most of NSDAP members documented wills..
That's how he gained most of his riches material riches such as painting of high value
(I am well aware of the OTHER factor that brang him alot of those things.. :wink: )

This is something we can see in Le Pens France as well..
All Le Pens wealth is courtesy of some rich old guy that let him inherit almost everything he owned..

Let's not forget that Hitler NEVER paid tax on his book after '33.. just this is a wealth in itself..

//Illion

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Post by Ovidius » 09 Aug 2002 19:40

Starinov wrote:was it considered a luxury car or no?


I can answer only by comparison:

VW KdF("Beetle") sold for RM 900, but only a few were made before 1939

Opel P4 sold for RM 1450 and 65,864 were built in 3 years(1935-36-37)

Opel Olympia sold for RM 2500 and 81,661 were made in 3 years(1935-1936-1937)

BMW 326 sold for RM 5500 and 15,949 were made in in 6 years(1936-37-38-39-40-41)

Mercedes-Benz 230 W153 sold for RM 5875 to RM 9500(depending on bodywork) and 4,210 were made in 2 years(1938-39) and a few more in 1943

The superb Mercedes-Benz 540K sold for RM 22,000 to RM 28,000 and 406 were made in 4 years(1936-37-38-39)

I guess the BMW 326 could be considered a luxury car, after all, it was a BMW.

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Post by Eva » 09 Aug 2002 19:46

Several sources do say that Mein Kampf made Hitler a millionaire. Funny thing about writing a book that then becomes required reading for an entire country. :D . And the party/government paid for such a large portion of his expenses that he didn't really have to spend much of his own money for anything. If the course of history had gone ay different, the Hitlers could have retired in luxury.

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Post by Linlu » 10 Aug 2002 05:22

Eva,

You are right. If Hitler died or something before he started WWII, he would be treated as a national hero in Germany today. There would be statues, stamps, books (praising him)......

- Linlu :mrgreen:

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Post by Dan » 12 Aug 2002 15:57

Here's a twist on it I had read somewhere but had forgotton, that Hitler used much of his wealth for charity:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/08/Times100802.html

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Post by walterkaschner » 12 Aug 2002 17:29

Hi Dan,

IMHO one should be very careful in using David Irving as a reliable source. Hitler's "charitable" fund that Irving cites as designated for "anonymous gifts to the needy" was in fact used in great part for gifts to the Nazi "Bonzen" (big shots). Hans Heinrich Lammers, Head of the Reichs Chancellery and administrator of Hitler's fund, testified before the IMT at Nuremberg that Hitler gave Ley, von Ribbentrop and Keitel each 1,000,000 Reichmarks from the "charitable" fund and that Lammers himself was given 600,000. (See Transcript of IMT Proceeding of April 9, 1946.) Walther Funk himself testified that Hitler gave him 520,000 RM as a birthday present out of the fund, and apparently von Neurath got 250,000 and Milch got 500,000. (See Transcript of IMT Proceeding of May 6, 1946.) And I suspect the above list is far from exhaustive. Some charity!! Some needy!!

Regards, Kaschner

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