Adolf Hiter, demon-possed?

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Adolf Hiter, demon-possed?

Post by Dr. Tempura » 15 Aug 2002 18:29

Hitler's early life could be characterized by one word, "failure." He eeked out a meager existence by living on his dead mothers limited savings and an Orphan's Pension which came from his fathers service in the Customs Department. His attempt at higher education was thwarted. He wanted to be an artist and so applied at the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts. They refused to accept him because his sketches were not up to the standards they required. Next, he applied to the School of Architecture and was refused. Author Treavor Ravenscroft says "...unable to make friends, Hitler became day by day a more solitary and embittered figure."

To make a long story short, Hitler was angry at God and society because of his plight in life, therefore he rebelled against God and society. In his quest for power to change his plight young Hitler turned to the occult. He began by spending all his free time in the Hofberg Library in Vienna, Austria reading books on the history of the occult and Eastern religions. The occult seemed to offer the power Adolph was searching for.

Next came the discovery that changed Hitler's life and drove him deeper into the occult.

What was the discovery that changed Hitlers life and drew him deeply into the occult?

In that library there is a ancient spear, believed by many, to be the one used to pierce the side of Christ. Erwin Lutzer, pastor of Moody Church in Chicago says in his book The Antichrist's New Age Roots, "One day when Adolph Hitler was in his early twenties, he overheard a tour group guide point out the spear to a group of guests and say, 'This spear is shrouded in mystery; whoever unlocks its secrets will rule the world.' Later Hitler said that those words had changed his whole life." He spent hours staring at the spear that had pierced the side of Christ. He believed the spear was possessed by secret occult powers and invited those powers to invade his soul. Trevor Ravenscroft records the eye witness account of Dr. Walter Stein who stood beside young Hitler as he gazed at the spear, "Adolph Hitler stood...like a man in a trance, a man over whom some dreadful magic spell had been cast...He was swaying on his feet as though caught up in some totally inexplicable euphoria...His whole [facial appearance] physiognomy and stance appeared transformed as if some mighty Spirit now inhabited his very soul, creating within and around him a kind of evil transformation of its own nature and power." (The Spear of Destiny, G. P. Putnam's Sons, New York)

Hitler wanted to enhance his occult powers further. He had already used the meditation techniques that he had learned about while studying the Eastern religions. But that proved too slow for him. Earnest Pretzsche, a used book dealer, introduced him to a psychedelic drug containing mescaline. This quickly produced clairvoyant visions that led Hitler to believed he had tapped into supernatural powers he could use for his own purposes.

After four years in Vienna, Hitler left and went to Munich. There he got involved with others who were dedicated to the pursuit of occult powers. That brings me to a little known fact. The original members of the Nazis (National Socialist Party) were hard-core satanists. It was the Nazis who led a willing Hitler into deeper levels of occult involvement. In fact, Dietrich Eckart, an occultist of the highest degree, and a practitioner of black magic, bragged before he died, "I have initiated him (Hitler) into the 'Secret Doctrine,' opened his centers in vision and given him the means of communication with the Powers...I shall have influenced history more than any other German." (Ravenscroft, p.91).

So what are the implications of this Satanic initiation? I believe it is here that Hitler had his demonic "new birth" and became totally demonized. From this point on, Hitler indeed did have demonic power. In fact, Eckart had told Hitler that he had received a satanic annunciation that he was to prepare the vessel of the Antichrist, the man who would be inspired by Lucifer to conquer the world and lead the Aryan race to glory. Hitler saw himself as that man.

But where did he get his ideas about the Aryan race? They came from the Thule Society. Thule was supposedly a lost island inhabited by an ancient race who were "masters of wisdom," who though unseen, were superior and highly intelligent. Hitler believed he was in contact with them and that they gave him power and energy. Through his alleged contacts with this mythical superior race, he believed he was destined to lead the Aryans to rule the world as Eckart had said.

You may ask, "did any of Hitlers associates think he was demon possessed or is this all hype?" The answer is yes, they did think he was demon possessed!

Rauschning, one of Hitlers associates before he defected to the West, said "One cannot help but think of him as a medium...beyond any doubt Hitler was possessed by forces outside himself..." (Gerald Suster, Hitler: The Occult Messiah).

Hitler was a rebel. He rebelled against society and he rebelled against God! His rebellion against God is further illustrated by what was done to the LORD'S PRAYER during the pinnacle of Hitlers career in Germany. It was changed to read,

Our Father, Adolph, who art on earth, Hallowed be thy name, the Third Reich come..."

Hitler had put himself in the place of God and desired the worship of men. He followed the same path as his father the devil followed in Isaiah 14, seeking personal exaltation and the worship of others. He also found that Satan lived up to the titles given him in Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apolllyon." The translation of both words is "destroyer".

Hitler was used by Satan to destroy a million plus of God's chosen people. Multiplied thousands more were destroyed in war. Then in mockery of Hitler himself, Satan motivated him to commit suicide, destroying himself.



Artical taken from http://logosresourcepages.org/hitler.html

Is this the truth? Or is it just propaganda ?

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Balderdash

Post by White Leopard » 15 Aug 2002 20:37

This sort of literature flourishes around personalities that are uncanny and upset people. The sources are named but never known and all of it is the same as a modern fairy tale.

If you want to believe this stuff, then you will have to agree that Santa Claus lives at the North Pole and that there is a tooth fairy. :lol: [/b]

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Post by Jeff O » 16 Aug 2002 06:04

Amen Brutha Leopard! :mrgreen:

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Post by David E M » 16 Aug 2002 07:06

White leopard! EXCUSE ME!! I KNOW that Santa lives at the North Pole! and How do you explain the money that appears in place of the tooth under the pillow? have you no soul??. :lol:

Seriously though, the Third Riech and the occult is an interesting subject, unfortunately clouded by clowns , weirdos and er... 'alternative viewpoints'.

There was a long and interesting thread on this either here or on Feldgrau, its worth looking up if anyone is interested.

cheers.

PS. I never figured out why Santa wears heavy furs and stuff when its 30c here in December :?

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Post by Oberst Mihael » 16 Aug 2002 10:24

While I do think that many nazis, even Hitler himself were involved in the occult, this article is just a whole lot of bull. :lol:

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Occult indeed.....

Post by varjag » 16 Aug 2002 13:09

Dr. Tempura of Hongkong - what'u smoking man - it must be potent stuff!

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Post by Harri » 16 Aug 2002 13:48

David E M wrote:...EXCUSE ME!! I KNOW that Santa lives at the North Pole!...


Excuse me, this is a bit of topic but your knowledge is wrong... :wink: To all those who don't know or are heavily missleaded: the one and only Santa Claus lives in Finland near a place called Korvatunturi in Finnish Lapland. That is a fact. :wink: One thing proves that: Finnair is the official airlines of Santa Claus! :wink: :lol:

http://www.santatelevision.com/

http://www.korvatunturi.fi/index_en.html

http://www.hut.fi/~pmaksima/paskalla.htm :oops: (Where the * that * link came?) :wink:

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off topic santa

Post by HaEn » 16 Aug 2002 15:01

And you are ALL WRONG !!!!!!!! Santa is a wannabe Sint Nikolaas, who really lives in Spain and has a black (moor) helper, "Zwarte Piet" . Every year he come by steamboat to Holland where on the eve of his birthday 5 December, he gives candy to góód kids. But a lump of rocksalt to the bàààd ones. EVERY child in Holland and western part of Germany knows this. So There ! :lol: HN.

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Post by Dan » 16 Aug 2002 15:11

The president of Moody college :lol: Now that's a source I would trust for serious scholarship :lol: :lol:

Hitler was a rebel. He rebelled against society and he rebelled against God! His rebellion against God is further illustrated by what was done to the LORD'S PRAYER during the pinnacle of Hitlers career in Germany. It was changed to read,

Our Father, Adolph, who art on earth, Hallowed be thy name, the Third Reich come..."

Hitler had put himself in the place of God and desired the worship of men. He followed the same path as his father the devil followed in Isaiah 14, seeking personal exaltation and the worship of others. He also found that Satan lived up to the titles given him in Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apolllyon." The translation of both words is "destroyer".

Hitler was used by Satan to destroy a million plus of God's chosen people. Multiplied thousands more were destroyed in war. Then in mockery of Hitler himself, Satan motivated him to commit suicide, destroying himself.


Can you imagine HaEn using that version of the Lord's Prayer :lol:

Can you imagine even Himmler or Bormann using it :lol:

A million of God's chosen people? Watch out dude, you'll get in big trouble for that, DENIER :mrgreen:

Besides, God's chosen people are, to all the mainstream Churchs "people of every tribe nation and language, who's names are written down in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation of the world". It's no longer racial.

BTW, Dr. Tempura, we aren't making fun of you, just the author of this garbage.

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RE: Truth of Propaganda?

Post by MVSNConsolegenerale » 16 Aug 2002 15:14

It is not truth, that much is for sure.

And it is not propaganda. To be propaganda it has to be believable and realistic by some stretch of the imagination.

I am constantly amazed at the human capacity to continually prove itself to me how stupid it is.

I'm Sorry.

There is no God,

W.H.D.

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Post by Qvist » 17 Aug 2002 21:45

Ravencroft's book is an utterly ridiculous piece of rubbish, and not to be taken seriously in any way. If you want to know about Hitler in a single volume, go for Kershaw, if you're interested in the occult and it's (often overblown) influence on certain circles of National Socialism, I'd recommend Nicholas Goodrick Clarke's "The occult roots of Nazism", which is a serious study, albeit overwhelmingly about pre-nazi figures.

cheers

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Post by Smert-Fashistam » 18 Aug 2002 14:26

Dr. Tempura, you should have probbably look a bit further into this article, because its sounds to me like its a description of some lame video game

Multiplied thousands more were destroyed in war. Then in mockery of Hitler himself, Satan motivated him to commit suicide, destroying himself.


-... and now its up to you to unlock the deep secrets of Third Reich, with over 12 authentic weapons at your disposal, you will have to fight 100s of enemies through yet most realistically done game ever...



got carried away there, although it was kinds peculiar :D

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Post by Kaiser » 18 Aug 2002 15:10

I think Dan hit the nail on the head. I used to live near the Moody church in Chicago. I'm not 100% sure, but I think Moodies come from outer space and are trying to colonize out planet.

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