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help to identify people on the picture...

Post by bruce » 06 Sep 2002 04:44

can some1 identify some of the people on the pic (left to right pls)
all i can see is mister himmlet and his buddy adolf...and by the way, any idea where and when this pic was taken?

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Post by GLADIVM » 06 Sep 2002 05:55

Next to himmler , with leather coat is Bormann , on himmler other side Keitel , on the left with the red lapels is Jodl and in the third row looking up is Heydrich .

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Post by Phil V » 06 Sep 2002 06:38

I have seen this photo a couple of times.

Can of the more knowlegable members answer these questions for me :

Where did this meeting take place?

When did this meeting take place?

What was the purpose of the meeting?

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Post by Caldric » 06 Sep 2002 07:15

Just taking a guess I say it is the eve of the Invasion of USSR, perhaps Central Poland?

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Post by Harri » 06 Sep 2002 08:51

That shorter guy between Keitel and Jodl could be Hitler's Press Chief Dr. Dietrich as he was always with Hitler whenever he went...

Who is that guy left to Hitler? Todt?

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Post by Mark Costa » 06 Sep 2002 12:13

Its NOT Jodl but FM Witzleben.

Dr. Brandt between Keitel and Himmler. Todt is next to Hitler.
Its NOT Heydrich but SS Officer Fritz Darges.

It is definately NOT Dietrich between Witzleben and Keitel. Dietrich was not in the Army but a Reichsleiter and usually wore SS Generals uniform.

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Post by Harri » 06 Sep 2002 13:37

Mark Costa wrote:Its NOT Jodl but FM Witzleben.


You are right, it is more likely Witzleben, not Jodl.

Mark Costa wrote:It is definately NOT Dietrich between Witzleben and Keitel. Dietrich was not in the Army but a Reichsleiter and usually wore SS Generals uniform.


(Takes another look on picture...) You are right (again) that Dietrich usually wore SS uniform and this guy doesn't wear...but he really looks like Dietrich...

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Post by bruce » 06 Sep 2002 15:38

between himmler and Keitel...looks like rommel
and between broman and Heydrich looks likes guderian

sorry im new at this, but am i anywhere close?

and where was this taken and when? i would also agree that it looks like a plan or presentation of a strategy, either for borbarossa or perhaps france...

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Post by Glenn2438 » 06 Sep 2002 17:41

I shoul think the photograph was taken during a visit to the front during the campaign in Poland. The "Sam Browne" belt as worn by some of the officers was discontinued after September 1939. Von Witzleben still appears to wear the two pips of a General der Infanterie. He was not promoted Generaloberst until November 1939.

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Post by Mark Costa » 06 Sep 2002 18:10

Glenn --- The photo was definately taken in either 1938 or early 1939, Certainly before September 1, 1939.

Hitler is wearing his Brown visor cap with cockade and wreath. This cap with the wreath was created in May 1938 for his state visit to Italy and he stopped wearing it on August 31, 1939. After that day he never wore it again. So this is the time frame of this photo.

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Post by Glenn2438 » 06 Sep 2002 18:43

Mark,

I think you may well be right. There is a photograph in Andrew Mollo's "A Pictorial History of the SS 1923-1945" which shows AH and the Reichsführer-SS in the same gear as the above photo near Eger in the Sudetenland on 3rd October 1938.

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Post by bruce » 06 Sep 2002 20:33

wow u guys know a lot of really specific stuff 8O ...makes me like a baby :oops:

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Post by Mark Costa » 06 Sep 2002 22:58

Rommel and Guderian are NOT in this photo.

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Post by HT » 06 Sep 2002 23:45

This photo was taken before Oct.1939 : Keitel doesn't wear his Knight's Cross

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Post by sylvieK4 » 07 Sep 2002 00:15

Who is the SA man standing near to Hitler (More or less between Hitler and Bormann)?

And how about the man in the civilian - fedora-style -hat, standing just left of the SS man in the back center?

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