Albert Bormann

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Albert Bormann

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Post by Helly Angel » 27 Oct 2002, 06:04

Hello,

I know this Officer was a good man and he has not relations with his borther Martin.

Can anybody tell me about him?

Which was the fate of Albert after the WWII and his bio?

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Post by David Thompson » 27 Oct 2002, 16:58

Bormann, Albert (1902-?) [NSKK-Gruppenführer] – younger brother of Martin Bormann; assigned to the Private Führer Chancellory (Privatkanzlei des Führers) of the NSDAP at Munich (Oct. 1931?)-1938; service, Nazi Party Relief Fund Apr. 1931-(Oct. 1931?); chief of Main office I, Personal Matters of the Fuhrer in the Private Chancellory of the Führer (Chef, Hauptamt I Leiter der Privatkanzlei des Führers in Führerkanzlei) 1938-1945 {sentenced 20 Sept 1949 by a Munich denazification tribunal to 6 months hard labor (NYT 21 Sept 1949:6:6); still living in 1978 (ABR-Kanzlei).}


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Post by nathan1987 » 13 Nov 2009, 17:23

Has anyone anymore info on Albert and his family? Did he have any children??
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Post by Georges JEROME » 15 Nov 2009, 13:32

in nazi area, an appointment can make you a "good" man or a criminal.
Albert Bormann was Chef Hauptamt I Kanzlei des Führers der NSDAP rather cool duties.
If he worked in the next office, he would have been hanged : Hauptamt II was in charge of Action T 4 the mass killing of insames. So, it was Viktor Brack who was executed.

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Post by J. Duncan » 15 Nov 2009, 19:27

Relations between the brothers were so caustic that Martin referred to Albert not even by name but as "the man who hangs the Fuhrer's coat"....Albert disliked Martin to the point where he did not even wish to discuss him in interviews. Source is from Jochen von Lang who wrote the stellar Bormann biography "The Secretary" (a very good book).

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Post by pavel michalek » 15 Nov 2009, 21:12

Why was the relation between them so tough, anyway?

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Post by Georges JEROME » 17 Nov 2009, 23:35

Albert Bormann conducted his job of leader of private chancellery next to Hitler with efficency having some influence on Hitler which escape to his ambitious brother Martin. Martin was upset by this influence considering his own work was of higher level : "political advisor" against "chief valet"
Martin used rumor that hungarian born wife of Albert was not aryan againt him. They didn't spoke both in spite they were in the same area.
Albert continue to have influence in private sphere of life, he succeded to obtain appointment of Trudl Jung as private secretary of Hitler.

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Post by Helly Angel » 19 Nov 2009, 00:17

Albert Bormann escaped on april 21, 1945 using false papers as "Roth" from Berlin to Obersalzberg an d lived under that name until april 1949.

Why he was not captured or received treatement as traitor like Fegelein?

Anyone know the circunstances of this?

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Post by J. Duncan » 19 Nov 2009, 01:42

Albert survived until the late 1970's...last reported alive 1978 according to previous topic discussions. I think Helly you are saying he went by that name until 1949 (and not died in 1949?). According to Fest, Albert wanted absolutely nothing to do with his brother and said as far as he was concerned, he "had no brother". Something must have happened between them after 1929, because he attended Martin's wedding and seemed to be all smiles on that occasion.

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Post by Helly Angel » 19 Nov 2009, 04:45

Yes, Albert lived until 1989, but I refer Albert left Berlin in april 21, 1945 using the name Roth, after that he lived underground in Munich working in a farm until april 1949 when he was voluntary to the police and was arrested until october 1949, after that he lived in Munich until his death but my question is why Hitler not ordered the capture of Albert by left Berlin in april 21...

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Post by Mark Costa » 19 Nov 2009, 14:13

Helly Angel:

Albert Bormann was ordered by Hitler to leave with his other two secretaries, for the Obersalzberg. This was the first "wave" of the FHQ staffs to leave the bunker. He had orders to clean out Hitler's Munich apartment of all papers etc. Which he did not really do, as the Americans got there first. Hence he went underground under an assumed name of Roth.

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Post by Halfdan S. » 19 Nov 2009, 15:16

Its true that Bormann was part of the FHQu-exodus, but it wasn't Bormann that cleaned out Hitlers appartment in München. That was Schaub with some SS-Officer whom I can't remember the name of. First Schaub burnt all personal papers in Berlin, then went to München and Obersalzberg and ended with the Führersonderzug at Zell am See (I think that was the location). Christa Schröder describes the scene at the Berghof ...

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Post by Pitino » 19 Nov 2009, 23:42

Halfdan S. wrote:Its true that Bormann was part of the FHQu-exodus, but it wasn't Bormann that cleaned out Hitlers appartment in München. That was Schaub with some SS-Officer whom I can't remember the name of. First Schaub burnt all personal papers in Berlin, then went to München and Obersalzberg and ended with the Führersonderzug at Zell am See (I think that was the location). Christa Schröder describes the scene at the Berghof ...

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-If I am not mistaken Schaub left out with Artur Kannenberg. Kannenberg was ordered by Hitler to take all of his personal possessions and the Reichkanzlei's state porcelain to Bayreuth. He was supposed to return to Berlin, but he never returned.

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Post by Halfdan S. » 22 Nov 2009, 09:55

Don't know about Kannenberg, but Olaf Rose's Julius Schaub-biography and Christa Schroder's "Er war min Chef" describes how Schaub was ordered to destroy all of Hitlers personal papers in Berlin, München, Obersalzberg and in Hitlers train.

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Post by Halfdan S. » 27 Nov 2009, 19:11

Here's a pic from Ullstein showing Albert B. 1949 ...

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