Did Hitler ever use the term "master race" in public speeches?

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Did Hitler ever use the term "master race" in public speeches?

Postby James Paul » 06 Oct 2017 17:55

Did the Nazis publicly declare their desire to create a master race? Did Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, etc, ever publicly use the term "master race" in speeches?

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Re: Did Hitler ever use the term "master race" in public speeches?

Postby wm » 10 Oct 2017 20:24

The term can't be found in Mein Kampf, The Second Book, The Goebbels Diaries, or The Myth of the XX Century.
Maybe in Rauschning's Conversations with Hitler (which has been shown to be a fake).

According to Rosenberg the goal wasn't to create a race (the highest and best - Nordic race always existed - or at least some remnants of it), but to strengthen the Nordic blood in Germans (it seems only some of them were fully Nordic) by a proper upbringing and education of the youth, and by forbidding blood polluting marriages with the lesser races (Scandinavians were very desirable because very Nordic).
Properly nurtured Nordic blood was capable to overcome the lesser blood in people, and it wasn't that hard even:
This last measure will also automatically push those racial elements into the foreground which are organically most of all capable of serving the supreme value of our people.
One needs only to allow a few companies of our Wehrmacht or the S.A. to march by, in order to see these heroic forces coming out from the subconscious. But in order to protect them from another stab in the back, we must insure that they are kept pure.
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It should mentioned it wasn't about some magic properties of the new and improved Germans. The ultimate qualities of the Aryans/Teutons/Nordics were "willingness to devote all faculties to the service of the community" (Hitler), love and honor (Rosenberg).

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Re: Did Hitler ever use the term "master race" in public speeches?

Postby James Paul » 24 Oct 2017 16:15

Goebbels is alleged to have said in 1936:

"Heute steckt in jung und alt, in hoch und niedrig, in arm und reich der besessene Wille, die deutsche Nation wieder zu einem Weltvolk emporzuführen. Jedermann bei uns ist davon überzeugt: Wir müssen an der Beherrschung der Welt teilnehmen. Wir müssen deshalb ein Herrenvolk werden, und deshalb müssen wir unser Volk zum Herrenvolk erziehen. Das muß schon beim kleinsten Pimpf anfangen, der schon in dieser Herrenmoral erzogen werden muß."

"Today there is in young and old, in high and low, in poor and rich the will, to make German nation again to a people of world. Each with us is persuaded of it: We must take part in the control of the world. Therefore, we must become a people of gentlemen, and, therefore, we must educate our people to be a people of gentlemen. This must already start with the smallest schoolboy who must be already educated in this gentleman's morality."

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Re: Did Hitler ever use the term "master race" in public speeches?

Postby James Paul » 24 Oct 2017 16:18

According to Carlos W. Porter who is a Holocaust denier/revisionist, the term "master race" was never used by the Nazis and the translations given from "Herrenrasse" and "Herrenvolk" are wrong.

Here are two websites which give more information:

http://www.cwporter.com/rauschningnote.htm

http://www.cwporter.com/mran.htm

Is there any truth in his assertions with regards to the term and its usage during the Third Reich?

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Re: Did Hitler ever use the term "master race" in public speeches?

Postby wm » 30 Oct 2017 20:53

In my opinion it was more a part of Allied propaganda than reality, but the Nazis made it easy by writings like this:
In the midst of a desert, warriors and conquerors once dreamed of a paradise. This dream of a few was transformed into the labour of millions. From one stream to another trickling water passed through ditches, in well planned lines through the arid desert. As if altered by magical powers, the yellow sand turned green and grain fields rustled, pregnant with heavy fruit. Towns and cities arose, art and science flowered.
Thousands of years later Nordic dreamers dug up the petrified culture from rubble and ashes. Today, the entire picture of the former paradise stands before our eyes as a spent dream which had once produced life, beauty and strength as long as a superior race ruled. It will live again and it will dream again. But as soon as races of a dreamless kind took over and attempted to realise the dream, reality vanished with the dream.
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Lots of complicated and obscure talk about superior races, inferior races, conquerors and conquered and the result was all what reached the Germans was "we are the master race".
In the occupied Poland the term was well known, it was an official claim the Germans were the superior administrators the Poles the inferior work force. Those people embraced the conquerors attitude very easily, as the ideology provided lots of justification for that. Even some German reports complained about a "master race like attitude" of the local administration and police toward the Poles.

Pre-war it was hardly possible to even mention such nonsense. The reactions of Germany's neighbors would have been unpredictable on hearing they were inferior or the Germans were the master race. Or the Japanese hearing they were a mediocre race.
Even the "I'm not a Jew" official Aryan certificate said that:
National Socialist thought grants full equity to every other people and, moreover never speaks of superior or inferior, but rather only of alien racial admixture.

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Re: Did Hitler ever use the term "master race" in public speeches?

Postby DavidFrankenberg » 30 Oct 2017 21:47

James Paul wrote:According to Carlos W. Porter who is a Holocaust denier/revisionist, the term "master race" was never used by the Nazis and the translations given from "Herrenrasse" and "Herrenvolk" are wrong.

Here are two websites which give more information:

http://www.cwporter.com/rauschningnote.htm

http://www.cwporter.com/mran.htm

Is there any truth in his assertions with regards to the term and its usage during the Third Reich?

He seems to be right on that.

Let me quote a passage from Jonh Lukacs i already quoted there viewtopic.php?f=46&t=230224&p=2104231 and there viewtopic.php?f=6&t=230144&p=2097094 :
i underline
John Lukacs, The Hitler of History (p.121-123), square brackets are mine :
"Hitler did write in Mein Kampf that the racial question was the key to world history. That he was not consistent in his racial preferences is obvious. When the occasion demanded, he chose, or sought, alliances with Japanese, Chinese, Romanians, Arabs, and so forth [we can add Poles before 1939, and even Soviets between 39-41], while remaining committed to fighting or even destroying his Nordic or Aryan opponents [Norway, Denmark, Holland, UK]. (...) Haffner noted that "race was never defined by him and often equated with the concept of nation... A supreme race as a master nation shall according to Hitler rule the world one day, but which a race or a nation ? the Germans or the Aryans ? This is never entirely clear with Hitler. Equally unclear is whom he regards as Aryans. Only the more or less Germanic nations ? Or all whites except the Jews ? This is nowhere clarified by Hitler." The real differencie among white, black and yellow-skinned people did not much interest Hitler. What interested him was the struggle within the white race, between the "Aryans" and the Jews". Only about Jews did he remain consistent to the very end of his life. (...) There was a racist element in his thinking, but his governing obsessions were not biological. National sentiments of superiority (...) were cultural rather than racial. (...) Hitler said "Pride of race is a quality which the German fundamentally did not possess. We use the term of Jewish race as a matter of convenience, for in reality and from the genetic point of view there is no such thing as the Jewish race


So as you can see, we shloud talk about a "master nation" rather than a "master race" indeed.


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