Was life in the third reich nice?

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by wm » 21 Feb 2021 09:16

Sid Guttridge wrote:
21 Feb 2021 00:43
The Nazis achieved full employment? Perhaps if one deducts the 1,500,000 or so men that went into the Army and RAD service, or the couple of hundred thousand Jews who were forced to leave, or the hundreds of thousands of women who initially had to give up their jobs to men.
According to Social Policy in the Third Reich by Tim Mason Germany achieved less than 2.5 percent unemployment in August 1937 (in Britain today it's 4.9 percent) , and started experiencing labor shortages since then.

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21 Feb 2021 00:43
Yup, the Soviets did all the things you claim, though they are only partly responsible for the Civil War - by definition, it takes two to conduct one!
No there are no two in crime, there is the criminal (the communists) and their victim (Russia.)

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21 Feb 2021 00:43
Life expectancy in Czarist Russia in 1913 was apparently 32! By 1926 it was reportedly 44. By 1950 it was reported as 64. (I presume this is without the intervention of civil wars, Hlodomors or Second World Wars.)
Comparisons between then and 50 years later have no meaning.
It's like complaining that there were no cars and planes in 1890's Britain - because there were millions of them in 1940's Britain.

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by Shaun7777777 » 23 Feb 2021 02:34

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I have heard and seen conflicting reports on how life was under nazi rule, was it terrible with the economy in ruin or was life going or even thriving? Please help, thanks in advance!
Life in Hitler's Germany was considered wonderful. So wonderful that the British Tory Government banned German cruise liners from docking in UK ports to prevent British Subjects seeing the German standard of living.
Hitler's Germany was the most successful post Great War State. The bankers could not make money from the German currency:- this is what led to WW2.

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by Sid Guttridge » 23 Feb 2021 08:14

Hi Shaun777,

You post, "Life in Hitler's Germany was considered wonderful. So wonderful that the British Tory Government banned German cruise liners from docking in UK ports to prevent British Subjects seeing the German standard of living."

Please tell us more, like some verifiable hard facts.

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by wm » 23 Feb 2021 12:32

Per capita, the Brits were almost 40 percent wealthier than the Germans.
Per capita, there were almost three times more cars in the UK than in Germany.
Germany was nice, but still, it was a horse and bicycle country.

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by George L Gregory » 23 Feb 2021 15:55

Shaun7777777 wrote:
23 Feb 2021 02:34
Life in Hitler's Germany was considered wonderful.
According to whom?
So wonderful that the British Tory Government banned German cruise liners from docking in UK ports to prevent British Subjects seeing the German standard of living.
Do you care to elaborate?
Hitler's Germany was the most successful post Great War State. The bankers could not make money from the German currency:- this is what led to WW2.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Boy oh boy, what on earth makes you think that the Third Reich was the "most successful post Great War State"? The Nazi regime lasted 12 years and caused havoc on the whole world. The Nazis caused WW2 and killed millions of people. I would hardly call that successful and I would certainly not call that a nice legacy.

I think you'll find that the Austrian corporal Adolf Hitler's foreign policy, racist ideas and lack of respect for any agreements, treaties and other nations caused WW2.

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by Sid Guttridge » 23 Feb 2021 19:45

Hi GLG,

I can't help adding a few hard facts to back up your final point: At the IMT after the war, his regime was charged with breaching 13 assurances, 8 treaties, 6 conventions, 3 solemn assurances, 2 agreements and one declaration against 12 different countries by 11 December, 1941. The list is not comprehensive even then, as it doesn't, for example, include the Reichskonkordat with the Vatican, or other breaches after that date, often against fellow Axis countries.

Cheers,

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by gebhk » 23 Feb 2021 20:26

Hi WM

It's probably fair to add, however, that national wealth is but one and not the most important factor determining quality of life (which I presume is what is meant by 'niceness'). Additionally, averages are only really useful comparators if the subject of the comparison falls into a bell-shape and earnings rarely if ever do so. So if one country has a flatter curve than another it is entirely possible that its average citizen may be more affluent than the average citizen of a richer country.

What is even more important is how many people fall below the poverty line. The fewer of those you have the fewer people you have who are miserable because they are poor and, ironically, miserable rich people who feel guilty that they are rich when their countrymen are poor.

While typical of a capitalist economy (more so than in the Weimar period), alas I have no idea how the wage distribution curves of Nazi Germany compared against those of the UK.

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by Shaun7777777 » 06 Mar 2021 00:45

Sounds like some fellows have been thoroughly indoctrinated. Churchill himself said that the cause of the War was Hitler preventing banksters from profiteering in Germany.
As for the mock trials and judgements after the last war they are worthless.
Do your research on GB banning of German cruise ships, you might just be surprised and awoken.

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by Sid Guttridge » 06 Mar 2021 09:02

Hi Shaun77777,

None of us are going to be surprised by anything you post if you don't give us any sources. Until you do, your propositions have no value here.

From memory, one KdF cruise ship had to stay outside British territorial waters. It was the one sent to allow German citizens in the UK to vote in the Austrian Anschluss.

What else are you referring to?

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Re: Was life in the third reich nice?

Post by wm » 06 Mar 2021 10:27

Money is a commodity as eggs or sleeping pills. If banksters were able to sell money for high prices in Germany it meant the German economy was still comparably undeveloped.

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