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Questions on Archbishop Gregoriji Rozman

Post by G. Trifkovic » 26 Apr 2006 22:47

Dear fellow members,

I have a couple of questions on Archbishop of Ljubljana,Gregoriji Rozman.First could anybody give me a link where I could find a decent biography?Second,what is today's stand on his activities during the war? Collaborator,or patriot or...? Any similarties to "Stepinac case"?

Thanks very much,

Gaius

P.S.To moderators: I'm not quite sure wheather this section is the right place to place these questions.If not,please feel free to move it to a more appropriate location.

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Re: Questions on Archbishop Gregoriji Rozman

Post by Apologist » 30 Apr 2006 04:37

rommel_gaj wrote:Dear fellow members,

I have a couple of questions on Archbishop of Ljubljana,Gregoriji Rozman.First could anybody give me a link where I could find a decent biography?Second,what is today's stand on his activities during the war? Collaborator,or patriot or...? Any similarties to "Stepinac case"?

Thanks very much,

Gaius

P.S.To moderators: I'm not quite sure wheather this section is the right place to place these questions.If not,please feel free to move it to a more appropriate location.


Try http://www.Wikipedia.org

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Post by Leib Garde » 30 Apr 2006 14:38

He was a collaborator. (dot)

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Post by Klemen L. » 30 Apr 2006 16:31

I have a couple of questions on Archbishop of Ljubljana,Gregoriji Rozman.First could anybody give me a link where I could find a decent biography?Second,what is today's stand on his activities during the war? Collaborator,or patriot or...? Any similarties to "Stepinac case"?


There is no decent biography of Archbishop Rozman, but here are some useful books, which contain a decent amount of information about him.

* Kolarič, Jakob: "Škof Rožman : duhovna podoba velike osebnosti na prelomnici časa"; V Celovcu : Družba sv. Mohorja, 1967-1977

* Lenič, Stanislav & Griesser-Pečar, Tamara: "Stanislav Lenič: življenjepis iz zapora"; Celovec, Ljubljana, Dunaj : Mohorjeva založba, 1997 (Monsignor Stanislav Lenic was his personal secretary during the war)

* Griesser-Pečar, Tamara: "Škof Rožman in kolaboracija?"; Nova Slovenska Zaveza. - ISSN C500-4446. - #Let. #6, #št. #3 (1996), str. 45-49 Ilustr. (Nova Slovenska Zaveza - NSZ is an official journal of the Slovenian Anti-Communist Veterans of World War II.)

* Griesser-Pečar, Tamara: "Razdvojeni narod: Slovenija 1941-1945: okupacija, kolaboracija, državljanska vojna, revolucija"; Ljubljana: Mladinska knjiga, 2004 (Also available in German - Das zerissene Volk Slowenien 1941-1946. Okkupation, Kollaboration, Bürgerkrieg, Revolution ... http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3 ... 04-8373623)

* Griesser-Pečar, Tamara: "Cerkev na zatožni klopi: sodni procesi, administrativne kazni, posegi "ljudske oblasti" v Sloveniji od 1943 do 1960"; Ljubljana: Družina, 2005 (Very good book about the Catholic Church in Slovenia during and after the war)

There is not much to say about him. He was a proud Carinthian Slovene who as such not only knew and experienced Nationalsocialism from his first hand, who has found himself at the head of the Slovenian Catholic Church at the most terrible time in our history. The communists, as usual, did everything to discredit him in their post-war quasi-history. He did everything possible to keep as many Slovenes alive, not to be sacrificed on the altar of foreign powers for foreign interests and foreign ideologies and as such was seen by the communists as their No.1 enemy.

He collaborated with the Germans and Italians as much as everyone else in Europe did (interventions for re-settled people, interventions for hostages or appealing on Germans or Italians for release of prisoners (ironically including the captured partisans and even communist leaders - F. Tomsic etc.))

The trial after the war in which they condemned him to death was a complete farse like all communist trials between 1943-50. This is something what can actually be easy to prove by just checking the trial documents.

He was a collaborator.


... and this is a perfect example of what they taught and still teach in Slovenia. :|

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Post by Mark V. » 03 May 2006 22:50

I would add two more excellent books on the subject:

Griesser-Pečar, Tamara & Dolinar, France M.: Rožmanov proces; Ljubljana, Družina, 1996
Škulj, Edo et al: Rožmanov simpozij v Rimu; Celje, Mohorjeva družba, 2001

and would completely agree with what Klemen wrote.

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Re: Questions on Archbishop Gregoriji Rozman

Post by SloveneLiberal » 17 Aug 2019 22:40

Archbishop Grigorij Rožman was a collaborator with both Italians and Germans. He supported both MVAC and Home Guard units. His trial after the war was in fact not really fair and in 2007 judgement against him was undone by Slovenian Supreme court because of procedural mistakes. One can understand this, but to say that he was not a collaborator that is of course not true.

Here are two clear examples of his collaboration.

1. Rožman presented a written proposal to Italian general Mario Robotti on 12. September 1942 in which he proposed in the name of the ''healthy part of Slovenian nation'' between others that Italians should allow the establishement of Local armed guards made up of Slovenes and under the command of trustful men who will take care that weapons would be used just against those who are rebelling with arms or are spreding partisan propaganda.
Rožman continues that also moving units under former Yugoslav officers should be established so they can fight partisans in forests to ( in fact this are chetniks under cover ). For Ljubljana he demanded that special secret police should be established which will hunt down all supportes of Liberation Front. And indeed all of this happened. We can see from this that Rožman had to be in contact also with the supporters of Draza Mihajlovic in Slovenia because in August 1942 Mihajlovic ordered to his commanders that they should use formations which are ''legal'' before Italians or Germans against partisans under the leadership of communists. Having in mind they are enemy number one and only after they are dealt with they will go after Germans or Italian ''when the time is right for that''.

2. Rožman collaborated also with Germans and supported Slovenian Home guard or Slovensko domobranstvo which was under the command of SS general Rosener. He clearly demonstrated this in his letter to Slovenian home guard soldiers written for Christmas 1943. He wrote between others that they are defending catholic faith, traditional values and property of nation. So than supporting them with propaganda.

Sources: book Hoja s hudičem, written by dr. Gregor Kranjc and published in 2014 page 163-165
book Odstrte zavese, written by Ivan Jan and published in 1992, page 83 ( copy of Rozman's Christmas letter to Slovenian home guards )

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