Wilhelm II and the 3hd Reich

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Wilhelm II and the 3hd Reich

Post by miftahalzaman » 15 Mar 2007 08:23

The ex Emperor of Germany, Wilhelm II, exiled in the Netherlands in died there in 1941, when the country was under German occupation.

I'd like to know, how was the response of the former Emperor of Germany on the rising and millitary success of the Third Reich, and how did the Reich and Hitler himself treat the ex Emperor? Once I read the Emperor sent a congratulating letter to Hitler after the fall of Paris. Is that true?

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Post by Maksymetz » 15 Mar 2007 09:09

You have to realize that Hitler, despite his inital "argubly socialist" ideas of removing the old guard and such from Germany society, didn't and as a result a lot of his officers and politicans were monarchists. Manstein himself was not a Nazi, but in fact a supporter of Wilhem (IRRC, he became a General in Post-WW2 General I think).


Wilhelm was hopeing that the arrival of Nazism, a very nationalistic idea, would bring both the Monarchy and Wilhelm back into power... didn't happen...


I believe some controversy happen when German troops found the old Kaiser. I believe that he was given a full military salute or a parade... which effectively annoyed Hitler, whom was anti-monarchy to the extent that he had no plans to bring back the the monarchy

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Post by Moltke44 » 17 Mar 2007 15:44

There is always the letter/telegram that the Kaiser wrote to Hitler after the quick fall of France to look at too. I wasn't aware of that 'military parade' given, interested to know if there were any photos?

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Post by Kurt_Steiner » 20 Mar 2007 19:07

Wilhelm apparently hoped that the successes of the Nazis would stimulate interest in the revival of the monarchy. I think that his second wife petitioned any times the Nazi government on her husband's behalf, Hitler despised both Wiilhelm and the monarchy. He felt Wilhelm was the one to blame for Germany's greatest defeat. Of course, Hitler didn't want to share his power with the kaiser.

Wilhelm distrusted Hitler, even if he greatly admired the success which he was able to achieve in the opening months of the Second World War, and even sent a congratulatory telegram on the fall of Paris. Nevertheless, after the Nazi conquest of the Netherlands in 1940, Wilhelm retired completely from public life.

When he knew about Hitler's persecutions of the Jews, the Kaiser remarked: "For the first time I am ashamed to be a German."

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Post by Oracle » 20 Mar 2007 19:57

I know I have read about the former Kaiser's children but to what extent did they get embraced by the requirement to join the military?

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Post by Heinrich George » 21 Mar 2007 04:29

" I know I have read about the former Kaiser's children but to what extent did they get embraced by the requirement to join the military?"

By 1939 all of his surviving sons were over 50 and unlikely to see active service. One was a member of the SA but I don't believe any held active or reserve commissions.

The son of Prince Oskar, Wilhelm's fifth son, fell in Poland. The eldest son of the Crown Prince fell in France. I believe shortly thereafter Hitler issued an order forbidding any of the surviving grandsons from serving in the Wehrmacht, apparently because he felt that the monarchists would consider such victims as martyrs.

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Post by Lornito Uriarte Mahinay Jr. » 31 Mar 2007 11:44

miftahalzaman wrote:
The ex Emperor of Germany, Wilhelm II, exiled in the Netherlands in died there in 1941, when the country was under German occupation.

I'd like to know, how was the response of the former Emperor of Germany on the rising and millitary success of the Third Reich, and how did the Reich and Hitler himself treat the ex Emperor? Once I read the Emperor sent a congratulating letter to Hitler after the fall of Paris. Is that true?
Kaiser Wilhelm wrote Hitler congratulating letter after the defeat of France. Top ranking Nazis, including Goering, visited him but they don't want him back into Germany.

But the question is why he refused the British offer of asylum in Britain?

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Re: Wilhelm II and the 3hd Reich

Post by tigre » 15 Sep 2019 18:24

Hello to all :D; a complement..........................

Wilhelm II's death.

Wilhelm II (* 27.01.1859-04.06.1941 +), German Emperor 1888-1918, King of Prussia, burial of William II in Doorn, (Netherlands): in the first row from, right to left Field Marshal, von Mackensen, the Reich Commissioner for the Netherlands, Reichsminister Seyss-Inquart, and the former Crown Prince Friedrich.

Source: http://usmbooks.com/Berliner_Illustrierte_1941.html

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Re: Wilhelm II and the 3hd Reich

Post by philabos » 18 Sep 2019 03:20

Some video of the funeral posted only a month ago.
Imperial flags, military salutes.
Quite a collection of former and contemporary serving military officers. Some indentified at the beginning of the film, most not.
Significant participation by both army and navy.

https://youtu.be/xA9sc9FOz2g

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Re: Wilhelm II and the 3hd Reich

Post by philabos » 18 Sep 2019 03:31

This link contains an interview with the Kaiser in 1938. It is sourced from a publication I am not familiar with, but perhaps someone else can speak to its authenticity.

http://lostinthemythsofhistory.blogspot ... itler.html

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Re: Wilhelm II and the 3hd Reich

Post by Br. James » 18 Sep 2019 19:09

In tigre's note of two days ago, I was surprised to see his reference to "former Crown Prince Friedrich," known to most as 'Crown Prince Wilhelm' -- until I looked up his list of official names, and right there it is: Friedrich Wilhelm Victor August Ernst! Thank you, tigre, for this educational moment!

Cheers,

Br. James

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