Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & documents

Discussions on every day life in the Weimar Republic, pre-anschluss Austria, Third Reich and the occupied territories. Hosted by Vikki.
User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 28 Jul 2010 23:16

Villagers gathered around a barn door.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 28 Jul 2010 23:17

Two girls.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 28 Jul 2010 23:18

German soldiers at village well.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 28 Jul 2010 23:20

One more for now.

Mother and her children.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
henryk
Member
Posts: 2281
Joined: 27 Jan 2004 01:11
Location: London, Ontario

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by henryk » 29 Jul 2010 19:01

Interesting to see how many adults were barefoot.
Any idea how many photos were taken by individual soldiers, and how many by official Army or newspaper photographers?

User avatar
Annelie
Member
Posts: 4913
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 02:45
Location: North America

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Annelie » 29 Jul 2010 19:33

Interesting to see how many adults were barefoot
People were poor. In the summer its easy to go barefoot, so I suppose they saved their shoes for when
they "had" to wear shoes.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 30 Jul 2010 08:33

Russians in rural areas were very poor, a lot did not have adequate housing, clothing and food.
The majority of the people in my photos did not wear shoes. Probably kept for winter months and special occasions.

Here's a photo of women and girls off to do the harvest. Even while doing this task they were bare footed.

Larry
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 30 Jul 2010 08:40

The two men in this photo are wearing coats made of skins. The coat of the man at left has a sleeve that is about to fall off.
The woman at right is probably wearing her husband's coat.
Unfortunately whilst the album has many great photos it has only a few captions.

Larry
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Svetlana Karlin
Member
Posts: 402
Joined: 17 May 2010 06:43
Location: Oregon, USA; Moscow, Russia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Svetlana Karlin » 30 Jul 2010 09:06

henryk wrote:Interesting to see how many adults were barefoot.
Any idea how many photos were taken by individual soldiers, and how many by official Army or newspaper photographers?
It seems that a lot of Bundesarchiv photos were taken by Propaganda-Kompanie photographers. http://commons.wiki.bks-tv.ru/wiki/Cate ... otographer lists German photographers, whose works were contributed by Bundesarchiv to Wikipedia. PK denotes a Propaganda-Kompanie photographer. Hermann Hoeffke who took the Kharkov photos is not in the list, but he worked for Propaganda-Kompanie too.

Annelie and Larrister,

You're absolutely right: a lot of rural people were too poor to afford extra footwear. In large cities people were better off and typically wore shoes/boots all year round. A pair of good boots was a valuable asset for a peasant.

A couple of interesting documents from State Archive of Nikolaev (Mykolaiv) province http://www.archives.gov.ua/Sections/194 ... /index.php. Residents submitted those declarations of the damage from German occupants after the Soviet liberation in 1944. Both of them list boots!
217-I-ra14-P-1894-1-38-106.jpg
Translation:
To Collective Farm ("kolkhoz") [unreadable name of the kolkhoz]
Bashtanskiy District

Declaration from Larchenko H. M. that during the period of German occupation was lost:
1. Cow
2. Young cow
3. 14 hens
4. 7 geese
5. 2 sheep
6. Sheepskin coat 1000 (Roubles - Linkar)
7. Duvet 500 (Roubles - Linkar)
8. Boots 1000 (Roubles - Linkar)
9. 2 bedsheets
Cash - 400 Rbl
Witness [signature unreadable]
On the margins added: Grain 3 [the letter unclear]
217-I-ra14-P-1894-1-39-13-13zv.jpg
Translation:
To Commission at the kolkhoz named after Voroshilov, village N-Gorozhano, N-Sergievskoy Rural Council, Bashtanskiy District, Nikolaev province for compensation of damage from German-Fascist occupants from Grablenka Vasilya Mikolaevicha

Declaration
During the time of the occupation of the village N-Gorozhano by the German Army my household suffered the following damage:
1. Two Cows, 39,000 Rbl
2. Men's suit, 2,000 Rbl
3. Six shirts, two men's and four women's 1,500 Rbl
4. Five scarves and 6 meters of fabric 2,800 Rbl
5. Men's boots 2,000 Rbl
Total 47,300
Witnesses: Yakimenko Ganna, Trukhanova Nadya

This set of damage declarations also contains claims lodged by residents of Kherson, a major city, and their lists are much longer: furniture, household items, utensils, jewelry, state bonds, etc. A lady from Kherson stated that her deceased husband's salary used to be 900 Rbl/month, but gave no information on his profession/employer.

Another document (from the same source) relevant to the claims above - a receipt about the property requisitioned by the German Army, which was issued during the occupation period.
Receipt.jpg
Translation:
Receipt N 20
A document on the receipt by the German Army has been received from the village Burilovo:
20 liters of milk
3 kg of butter
4 kg of lard
100 eggs
20 kg of carrots
50 kg of potatoes
5 chicken
The documents have been sent to Pervomayskaya Prefecture
Village Elder [signature unreadable]
Requisitioner [signature unreadable]
February 25, 1942
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Scorched earth, scorched lives: http://svetlanakarlin.wordpress.com/

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 31 Jul 2010 00:31

Hi Linkar

Very interesting documents.
Were villagers actually compensated for their losses to the Wehrmacht?
The Germans would have taken what they wanted from villages without compensation.
The use of German occupation currency (assuming there was one in occupied Russia) would have been of no use to the rural peoples who lived so far from cities.

Here's a couple of photos showing makeshift dwellings.
Displaced people, refugees or people whose homes have been destroyed.

Note the meagre amount of personal possessions.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 31 Jul 2010 00:32

next...
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Svetlana Karlin
Member
Posts: 402
Joined: 17 May 2010 06:43
Location: Oregon, USA; Moscow, Russia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Svetlana Karlin » 31 Jul 2010 09:45

Larrister wrote:Hi Linkar

Very interesting documents.
Were villagers actually compensated for their losses to the Wehrmacht?
The Germans would have taken what they wanted from villages without compensation.
The use of German occupation currency (assuming there was one in occupied Russia) would have been of no use to the rural peoples who lived so far from cities.

Here's a couple of photos showing makeshift dwellings.
Displaced people, refugees or people whose homes have been destroyed.

Note the meagre amount of personal possessions.
Hi Larry,

I've been searching online for information whether there was a compensation system, but found nothing. In the past, I came across sporadic comments about material assistance for residents of war-ravaged areas. Unfortunately, I can't recall much on the topic, and I don't even remember the sources. :cry: Wish I paid more attention then!

Your photo album with the pictures of civilians is fabulous. To complement your photos of makeshift housing, here are a couple of links to pictures on a Russian archive website. The images are copyrighted and can't be posted on other sites without the owner's written permission.

http://victory.rusarchives.ru/index.php ... to_id=1439 These women actually live in a cellar. In rural and small-town Russia, Belorussia and Ukraine it was common to make deep underground cellars in backyards. In winter they provided roomy storage for staples like potatoes and vegetables, which was cool but protected from freezing. In summer they served as a cold storage for foodstuffs. Sometimes people packed them with cut ice in early spring. The ice would be covered with straw, so it wouldn't melt quickly. The ice could last as long as late summer.

http://victory.rusarchives.ru/index.php ... to_id=1442 A woman inside a dugout shelter.
Scorched earth, scorched lives: http://svetlanakarlin.wordpress.com/

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 01 Aug 2010 01:33

Hi Linkar

Thanks for the links to the photos. Unfortunately even though I have 1000's of photos in my collection (many taken in Russia) I haven't the time to do any proper research.

It is good that someone such as yourself has started a thread like this.
Do you know whether villages and their inhabitants were persecuted by the Russian authorities as collaborators for billiting
Wehrmacht troops.
I know that no-one had much choice in the matter but a lot of photos show villagers and German troops living quite happily together.

Some more photos from the album.

Laughing boys mixing food in a bowl.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 01 Aug 2010 01:35

Russian girl with German soldiers.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Larrister
Member
Posts: 1766
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 00:34
Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia

Re: Civilian life in occupied Soviet Union in photos & docum

Post by Larrister » 01 Aug 2010 01:36

Russian girl.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Return to “Life in the Third Reich & Weimar Republic”