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Post by Lord Styphon » 20 Dec 2002 22:01

No, this is a Swedish site.

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Post by Mark V » 20 Dec 2002 22:04

Miss Nimitz wrote:Ahhh ha! I just found out this is a Finnish site, no wonder Finland gets high votes...Good on you guys..fantastic site.


I think this is site is based in Sweden. At least our webmaster - Marcus is a Swede.

And you would not be laughing if you would be in receiving side of Finn artillery on one of the "hot" summer days of 1944 in Tali-Ihantala battle...

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Post by Caldric » 20 Dec 2002 22:12

Mark V wrote:
Miss Nimitz wrote:Ahhh ha! I just found out this is a Finnish site, no wonder Finland gets high votes...Good on you guys..fantastic site.


I think this is site is based in Sweden. At least our webmaster - Marcus is a Swede.

And you would not be laughing if you would be in receiving side of Finn artillery on one of the "hot" summer days of 1944 in Tali-Ihantala battle...


It is also a site on the Third Reich which is a reason the Germans always get a more then over-bloated voting on the polls. I mean "Who had the best toliet paper?" Germans get 555 votes all other 2 or 3. :D

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Post by Mike K. » 20 Dec 2002 22:14

Hahaha :lol:

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Post by Mark V » 20 Dec 2002 22:20

Caldric wrote:It is also a site on the Third Reich which is a reason the Germans always get a more then over-bloated voting on the polls. I mean "Who had the best toliet paper?" Germans get 555 votes all other 2 or 3. :D



And Finland is not Germany. So, i don't think we get any votes just because that reason - after all Finnish fought against Germans during WW2.

I admit that Finns are very well represented among our members, but that is natural, we are one of the leading countries in Internet usage (like in all other areas of new technology too).

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Post by Miss Nimitz » 20 Dec 2002 22:24

Well I dont know about German Toilet paper being the best due to the EU but defenitely German Third Reich Waffen SS toilet paper must of been best. :D

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Post by Mark V » 20 Dec 2002 22:25

Miss Nimitz wrote: P.S I heard big Bertha could fire a shell 50 kilometres, was that true?


No.

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Post by Galahad » 20 Dec 2002 22:30

The "Paris gun" bombarded Paris at a range in excess of 70 miles in 1918. But, like WW II's Gustav, it was an example of much too little in the way of a bang for the resources it took to make it and service it.

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Post by Miss Nimitz » 20 Dec 2002 22:47

Galahad, was 'Big Bertha the 'Paris gun? Do u mean 70 miles or Kilometres? as that would be about 115 Kilometres...

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Post by Caldric » 20 Dec 2002 22:48

Mark V wrote:
Caldric wrote:It is also a site on the Third Reich which is a reason the Germans always get a more then over-bloated voting on the polls. I mean "Who had the best toliet paper?" Germans get 555 votes all other 2 or 3. :D



And Finland is not Germany. So, i don't think we get any votes just because that reason - after all Finnish fought against Germans during WW2.

I admit that Finns are very well represented among our members, but that is natural, we are one of the leading countries in Internet usage (like in all other areas of new technology too).


Yes I know Mark and I think you can be sure when Finland gets a vote it is by someone who knows the issues and fact of the time, unlike Germany who seems to get votes just because. Not to mention the Finnish putting such a effort into the entire thread to show how well their Artillery performed.

All of that at the side I still had to vote for the US, although the Soviets were a hard second in my mind.

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Post by Mark V » 20 Dec 2002 22:53

Galahad wrote:The "Paris gun" bombarded Paris at a range in excess of 70 miles in 1918. But, like WW II's Gustav, it was an example of much too little in the way of a bang for the resources it took to make it and service it.


OK. Maybe i should give this some effort.

WW1 Paris gun:
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WW1 Big Bertha:
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... and they didn't have anything in common. First was long range gun, second was heavy siege artillery.


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Post by Mark V » 20 Dec 2002 22:55

Caldric wrote:All of that at the side I still had to vote for the US, although the Soviets were a hard second in my mind.


Hi Caldric.

Seems that we agree after all. And to remind you - I voted for US arty too, like i explained in my post... :D

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Post by Galahad » 20 Dec 2002 23:01

Apologies. My mistake.....I had the two mixed up. Which should tell me not to post in the middle of the night. <g>

But, re the range for the Paris gun, I did indeed mean 70 miles. Plus.
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Post by Miss Nimitz » 20 Dec 2002 23:02

Mark, nice pictures, but i;m sure Big Bertha look different than that...I saw in on a black and white documentary once, also you didnt tell us their range.

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Post by Mark V » 20 Dec 2002 23:48

Miss Nimitz wrote:Mark, nice pictures, but i;m sure Big Bertha look different than that...I saw in on a black and white documentary once, also you didnt tell us their range.


Big Bertha looked exactly like that.

One more pic of Big Bertha:

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42cm Gamma howitzer (a predecessor of Big Bertha) had max. range of 14.200 metres. I don't have sources for Big Bertha right now - but it was same or (propably) somewhat shorter than Gamma.

21cm Paris gun had an max. range of about 131.000 metres.



source: I. V. Hogg: German Artillery of WW2
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