Diplomatic communications between axis and allies?

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Diplomatic communications between axis and allies?

Post by Fokker » 22 Dec 2014 16:46

Was there any? Except that Hitler proposed peace to Stalin sometime after Stalingrad but didn't receive reply. And there was also some communications about POWs, I guess often via Red Cross and similar. Was there any communications between British and German governments, for example? As far as I know, as soon as hostilities started, diplomats were sent to their home countries with help of neutral countries. Even Stalin allowed this to German diplomats but only after summoning them to hear his opinion about what he thought was a betrayal. And I remember reading that after the war he jailed them.

I don't count Himmler's and Hess's negotation attempts as real diplomacy because they did it at their own account.

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Re: Diplomatic communications between axis and allies?

Post by OpanaPointer » 22 Dec 2014 17:01

Sweden and Switzerland offered their services as go-betweens for this mission. FRUS would have information on that.
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Re: Diplomatic communications between axis and allies?

Post by durb » 01 Feb 2015 23:03

About Stalin being active to find a settlement with Hitler: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=160502

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Re: Diplomatic communications between axis and allies?

Post by Attrition » 03 Feb 2015 23:11

The Spectre of a Separate Peace in the East: Russo-German 'Peace Feelers', 1942-44
H. W. Koch
Journal of Contemporary History
Vol. 10, No. 3 (Jul., 1975), pp. 531-549
Published by: Sage Publications, Ltd.
Article Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/260160

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Re: Diplomatic communications between axis and allies?

Post by Carl Schwamberger » 05 Feb 2015 05:37

Japanese diplomats approached the US embassy in Switizerland, proposing a cease fire and Japans basis for a armistice. This in the late spring of 1945. The US diplomat they communicated with gave them a outline of the Allied Unconditional Surrender policy & made it clear this was the final position of the Allied leaders. Later another Japanese diplomat inquired with the Soviet foreign office about enhanced Japan USSR cooperation vs the US. The concept was a USSR nuetral but favoring Japan would serve as a stratigic counter to the US. The diplomat did not receive a answer, at least not until the Soviet DoW on Japan. Re: 'Japans Decision for Surrender'

The most productive Axis/Allied communication was of course Italys surrender. That went on for weeks and involved senior military leaders including Eisenhower.

Technically Thailand was a Axis nation. In 1945 the OSS sent a team into Thailand in search of a opposition to support. They quickly located the opposition leaders, who also happened to be Thailands legit leaders. They could clearly see Japan was losing and wanted Allied help in getting the Japanese army out of Thailand.

Even before Hitler killed himself the senior German commander in Italy was seeking contacts with the Allied leaders in the Med in a effort to surrender. Some OSS agents captured in south Germany in the spring of 1945 were not shot but instead treated as 'contacts' by the local German leaders who attempted to use them to negotiate various matters. In the winter of 1945 the Reichs commissioner for Holland was contacted by the Allies about allowing food drops for the Dutch civilians in German occupied provinces.

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Re: Diplomatic communications between axis and allies?

Post by Wisarut » 28 Mar 2020 01:23

the diplomatic communication needs code books which had to be changed in person between Ministry of Foreign Affairs to Thai Embassador through a courier as far as I concern. The code books need need to be changed in a regular basis once Ambassador had felt that the host started to know more about Thailand's intention which Thai Ambassador never want to tell the host government at all.

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