Marriage and Birth rates in Germany between 1939-1944

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Marriage and Birth rates in Germany between 1939-1944

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Post by Jean270 » 27 Oct 2017, 15:51

Hello,

I am looking for the primary, or secondary, sources that could give me an idea of what the German Birth and Marriage rates were during WWII. I am currently working on a Paper/project comparing the rates of America, France, England and Germany during WWII. However, I am having a terrible time finding reliable number and sources I would feel comfortable citing as my sources. Could you help? I'm about one day away from phoning the German Consulate for help.

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Post by Futurist » 28 Oct 2017, 20:38

Here are the marriage rates for Germany between 1938 and 1941:

https://books.google.com/books?id=4oHq- ... 40&f=false


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Post by Futurist » 28 Oct 2017, 20:42

Also, there is some information on German birth rates for this time here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... since_1900

However, I am unsure if the source cited there actually confirms the information on this Wikipedia page.

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Post by CroGer » 31 Oct 2017, 18:16

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_ca ... rld_War_II

For as long as they keep that table in the article, scroll down to "Population Balance for Germany in 1937 borders (not including Austria or the ethnic Germans of East Europe): May 1939 to October 1946"

Live birth: 8.670.000
Death by natural causes: 7.130.000


Besides of that, the article is the typical mixure of bollocks and valuable info, and, of course beware of the black magic of the "ultra right" :? The allies dindu nuffin.

If it helps further, here is the number of children per 1000 women:

1930-1938: 2.156
1939-1945: 1.887
1946-1948: 1.772
1949-1968: 1.646

Mortality
1938: 11,3
1946: 13,1
1947: 12,9
1948: 11,7
1948: 11,1
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Re: Marriage and Birth rates in Germany between 1939-1944

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Post by Jean270 » 01 Nov 2017, 15:25

Thank you all for the help. However, you do know I can't use wikipedia? It is not consisdered a reliable secondary source. It's not even considered a reliable tertiary source. I was able to find a something through looking through some of it's sources, but please be careful citing or using wikipedia in the future. I know Professors in my college who go on and mess with the cite for fun, and to prove it's not a safe site.

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Post by CroGer » 01 Nov 2017, 16:19

If you want to find out the truth, you have to go through a lot of articles on the internet and contemporary books.


Wikipedia is a source, where "agenda narrative" is mixed with legit information. It's up to yourself to decide what's worth taking seriously.
When I studied history and social sciences (which back them was just sociology, politics, economics) 10+ years ago, wikipedia was still a "free encyclopedia", where everybody could edit a post. Today, it's not like that, there are people who will monitor every edit. And they have an agenda. They know that most people only read the first three parapgraphs of a long article, so what they want you to know about a topic is in these three paragraphs.

But few years ago, the english version of wikipedia was actually a great source for information. But now it has all been adapted to the "narrative".
"Narratives" are not part of historical science. They are part of storytelling. You learn in school about history not to be informed, but to create a "we". Every person has two personalities: an "I" and a "we", and the narrative is part of the "we". Wikipedia is now, at least when it comes to WW2, an extension of what you are supposed to learn in school.

The figures for birth rates and mortality are not from wikipedia, they are from articles on the internet that I have found over the years.

This for example has some interesting statistics:

percentage of mothers by number of children

1933-1938: one child: 25%, two children: 39%, three or more: 35%
1939-1943: one child: 27%, two children: 43%, three or more: 29%
1944-1948: one child: 30, two children: 45%, three or more: 23%

https://www.destatis.de/DE/Publikatione ... cationFile

Page 26.

Here you'll find number of children per 1000 women, from the year 1930 on

http://www.single-generation.de/themen/ ... chland.htm

This article say that in 1946 922.000 live births have been recorded in Germany.

http://www.focus.de/fotos/die-entwicklu ... 94062.html

This article confirms the number of 922.000 births, and also give the number of deaths at about 1,002 Million.

This article shows the number of live births more precisely, with 921.667

http://www.n-tv.de/politik/dossier/Zahl ... 79885.html


Unfortunately, when you try to find info about Germany 45-49, you'll have problems. I call these the dark years, probably because things happened which were sweapt unter the rug.


So if you had 922.000 live births in Germany and 1.002.000 "natural deaths", than this means that between 1939 and 1945

7.748.000 live births (8.670.000-922.000)
6.128.000 natural deaths (7.130.000 - 1.002.000)
= + 1.620.000
in a population of

69.316.526
So without war related deaths, you would have had 70.936.526 in the Germany of 1937.
So a population growth of 2,337% between 1939 and 1945

But this is demographic research with a very poor source of information. Yet it is the only kind of reserach possible, without having access to the official achives.
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