The Reichstag Fire

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The Reichstag Fire

Post by Geli » 22 Jul 2002 23:28

Who set it, and what's the evidence?

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Post by Benoit Douville » 23 Jul 2002 00:57

I started a topic about the Reichstag fire a few months ago. I think you can find it in the Archives of the forum.

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Post by member7 » 23 Jul 2002 17:47

The fire was started by a communist by the name of Van der Lubbe. He was part of a communist conspiracy to destroy Germany. The fire was meant to signal the beginning of a communist uprising starting in Berlin and would spread throughout Germany. Luckily the Fuhrer moved in time to prevent such a catastrophe from happening.

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Post by Marcus » 23 Jul 2002 17:54

member7 wrote:The fire was started by a communist by the name of Van der Lubbe. He was part of a communist conspiracy to destroy Germany. The fire was meant to signal the beginning of a communist uprising starting in Berlin and would spread throughout Germany. Luckily the Fuhrer moved in time to prevent such a catastrophe from happening.


That was the official version at the time at least.

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Post by Caldric » 23 Jul 2002 17:59

The fire was started by a communist by the name of Van der Lubbe. He was part of a communist conspiracy to destroy Germany. The fire was meant to signal the beginning of a communist uprising starting in Berlin and would spread throughout Germany. Luckily the Fuhrer moved in time to prevent such a catastrophe from happening.



And you don't think the Nazi party started it? I mean I thought Goering was pretty much guilty as hell.

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Post by Marcus » 23 Jul 2002 18:05

Caldric,

Member7s view on how the war started is rather telling of his views in general:
World War 2 started on September 3, 1939 when in a clear act of agression Britain and France declared war on Germany. They are clearly responsible for the war and have the lives of 60 million people on their conscious.

/Marcus

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Post by Walter Schellenberg » 23 Jul 2002 18:21

It was a Heydrich Machination - with the benediction of Hitler and Goering

Heydrich also organized 100% :
- the Night of The Long knives
- KristalNacht

If you want proof about these ask me - most recent studies are quite sure of that now.

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Post by Marcus » 23 Jul 2002 18:23

Walter,

I'd like to hear more about Heydrich's role in the fire, thanks.

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Post by HaEn » 23 Jul 2002 23:14

member7 wrote:The fire was started by a communist by the name of Van der Lubbe. He was part of a communist conspiracy to destroy Germany. The fire was meant to signal the beginning of a communist uprising starting in Berlin and would spread throughout Germany. Luckily the Fuhrer moved in time to prevent such a catastrophe from happening.


Marinus van der Lubbe was a self proclaimed communist Dutch student, who had been "threatening" to set the Reichstag on fire, and even was picked up because of this, but after a day was released. He was found, half dazed, or doped up, in the vicinity of the fire; was arrested, tried, convicted, and hanged. The problem was that the amount of fuel and strategic placement, as well as the simultaneous lighting COULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE BY ONE PERSON . There were also a few well known communists arrested, but their charges were dropped after they made a spectacle of the public prosecutors during the court procedures. Sorry, don't recall their names. I remember his picture in the papers, drugged appearance, head hung. in short a sorry figure. Regards. HN.

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Post by Caldric » 23 Jul 2002 23:29

They killed the guy entirely to fast for anyone to talk to him, made it look really suspicious.

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Post by Caldric » 23 Jul 2002 23:31

Caldric,

Member7s view on how the war started is rather telling of his views in general:
Quote:
World War 2 started on September 3, 1939 when in a clear act of agression Britain and France declared war on Germany. They are clearly responsible for the war and have the lives of 60 million people on their conscious.


/Marcus



Yes it makes me doubt the person a great deal when they start claiming the Furher saved us...

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Post by Geli » 24 Jul 2002 04:12

Marcus, how can I find the old thread?

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Reichstag Fire...

Post by Scott Smith » 24 Jul 2002 05:54

I don't think there is any evidence whatsoever that the Nazis had anything to do with the Reichstag fire beyond Hitler immediately seeing the propaganda value and capitalizing on it.
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Post by Caldric » 24 Jul 2002 06:12

Yeah it can most likely not be proven, but we do know it was really convenient, that Goring seems awfully fast to know what was going on, that the fire could not most likely been the result of one person, it was awfully fast execution of the Dutch communist, and that the communist won in court.


As far as the Dutch guy, why not keep him alive if he knew so much?

I am sure much more could be added to that list.

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Post by Marcus » 24 Jul 2002 11:39

Geli wrote:Marcus, how can I find the old thread?


Which old thread?

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