Drobjatski Sergei wrote:Joke is a joke...
I think they would work as a slave at some faktory or mine instead of driving a "benz"...
Well the Spiegel did not call that story a joke.
Even former slaves drive "Benz's' nowadays
Maybe not in RU.
The Soviet Partisan Movement 1941-1944, p. 215.The Soviet Partisan Movement 1941–1944 is based almost entirely on documents now in the custody of the United States Government. These comprise the voluminous collection of German Army records, including the Rosenberg and Himmler files, now located in the Captured Records Section of The Adjutant General's Office and the records of the various trials of war criminals following World War II which are now in the National Archives.
Specifically the German Army records used were those portions pertaining to German planning and operations and to partisan organization and operations. These included army war diaries (KTB's) and their supporting papers, operations and intelligence reports, minutes of conferences, telegrams, and transcripts of telephone conversations, and the like, from division level through army group and army group rear area to include the High Command of the Army (OKH) and the Armed Forces High Command (OKW) . They were supplemented by manuscript histories prepared after the war by more than two hundred German officers working under the direction of the Historical Division, EUCOM. Limited use was made of German naval and air force records, for the most part in relation to the political aspects of the decision to attack the Soviet Union. For the period to September 1942, the most valuable single source for over-all guidance and general information was "The Private War Journal of Generaloberst Franz Halder." For the political aspects of both the planning for the invasion of Russia and the political occupation as far as it was put into effect, the Rosenberg and Himmler files and the records of the war crimes trials were used extensively.
Secondary sources were used only for orientation and general background material. No Soviet secondary sources were used because of their general unreliability. A selected bibliography of secondary sources is appended. (emphasis added)
How does this diminish either Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya or the concept of a popular uprising? Would you like a list of urls to the German reports I compiled showing arson as a routine Nazi policy in the USSR? Perhaps you overlooked the several examples I've already posted in this thread, namely:One example: many a generation of post WW2 Soviet children were taught in school about the "heroic partizanka" (i.e. partizan-girl) Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya who, while performing her duty towards Motherland, was caught by the Germans, tortured and executed. Poems and songs were written about Zoya, factorie, schools and ships were named after her. Only in the late 80s the true story of Zoya came to light: she was indeed trained by the Red Army and send behind the enemy lines to commit acts of sabotage. After she set several houses were German troops were lodged on fire, she was captured by Russian peasants (in the Russian countryside arson is considered a crime more serious than murder) and given to the Germans who executed her for her "crimes". So much for the popular uprising!
Document: *254-PS; Description: Letter from Raab to Reichsminister for Occupied Eastern Territories, 6/7/1944, concerning burning of houses in Wassilkow district. (USA 188)"Estates of those who refuse to work are to be burned, their relatives are to be arrested as hostages and to be brought to forced labor camps."
Are you trying to suggest that the Nazis didn't plan a famine in the area of the Soviet Union they occupied?On the starvation issue, whatever Hitler planned the situation from the beginning was awful for the civilian population because Stalin had ordered a "scorched earth" retreat and the food supply destroyed. Where there is no food, you'll have famine, Hitler plans or not, and any army in that situation would channel the limited supply to its own at the peril of the local enemy population. There are debates over whether the plan to leave the local people with an average ration of 2,000 kcal per day amounted to planned starvation or not--postwar rations in the US Zone were 1500 kcal in 1946, and no one is accusing the Americans of deliberate starvation.