Christmas in the Third Reich

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by chinacheeze » 04 Jan 2010 23:53

Funny , looking at these and similar candid ones,
i am personally struck by the ordinary appearance
of the average German soldier.
Perhaps it is true that they were not all beasts; not all like the worst we
have witnessed in the ranks of the SS, for example.

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Annelie » 05 Jan 2010 12:57

Perhaps it is true that they were not all beasts; not all like the worst we
have witnessed in the ranks of the SS, for example.
You have got to be kidding or perhaps your just plain "not thinking"?

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Beek » 05 Jan 2010 14:49

Annelie wrote:
Perhaps it is true that they were not all beasts; not all like the worst we
have witnessed in the ranks of the SS, for example.
You have got to be kidding or perhaps your just plain "not thinking"?
Annelie,
I was hoping you could clarify that statement. Do you believe that they all were beasts, or that the assumption that all in the SS were beasts is false?

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Annelie » 05 Jan 2010 16:14

Sorry for not making myself clear to everyone.

I was so taken aback by this posters comments.
How could I believe that "they" were all beasts?
Definitely do not think that they were all beasts!


The beasts in this world and then were those that started and sent men to war.
They allowed a pandora of evil to go amongst decent good people/men which tarnished
everyone. There is not one nation which doesn't have their "beasts" and its only near sighted
and those with prejudices that would make such comments.

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Beek » 05 Jan 2010 17:20

Annelie wrote:Sorry for not making myself clear to everyone.

I was so taken aback by this posters comments.
How could I believe that "they" were all beasts?
Definitely do not think that they were all beasts!


The beasts in this world and then were those that started and sent men to war.
They allowed a pandora of evil to go amongst decent good people/men which tarnished
everyone. There is not one nation which doesn't have their "beasts" and its only near sighted
and those with prejudices that would make such comments.
Thank you for that clarification. I would have taken it personally if you meant it the other way. From every account my grandfather was a good Christian man who just happened to get sucked into the clutches of the beast. In all fairness however, some families probally feel the same way about their own family members who were in reality criminals.

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Annelie » 05 Jan 2010 17:43

No problem.

My Father was a Kriegsmarine so I know a little of what I speak.
In all fairness however, some families probally feel the same way about their own family members who were in reality criminals.
True enough. They say there is both evil and good in people so who/m are we to say that some of the criminals of the
time were not good and loving Fathers to their children.

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by ghostsoldier » 05 Jan 2010 17:44

I agree. "Evil" is often subjective; it really depends upon which side of the fence you are standing on. :)

That's what makes this forum a quandary of sorts: the effort of dealing in objectivity by people who are, by nature, ruled by subjectivity. :wink:
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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by CapeSableSeasideSparrow » 06 Jan 2010 09:50

Annelie wrote: There is not one nation which doesn't have their "beasts" and its only near sighted
and those with prejudices that would make such comments.
Just to further the point: look to the Milgram Experiment for evidence. Most of us act obediently to authority even when ordered to do something previously considered immoral or wrong.
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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Maggie07 » 12 Aug 2011 20:26

To reopen this topic....I have been collecting Kriegsweihnachten cards for years. Previously, I had had some success on ebay, but there is a fella that just has very deep pockets and he's paying well beyond MY means. Can anyone suggest other sources to help continue my collection? I'm in the USA, so travelling to shops/flea markets in Europe isn't an option.

On another note, I did quite a bit of research on my extended family in WWII. Interestingly, they fought on both sides. I have had flowers laid at the graves by the Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge (they are very kind to do this, and also provided pictures) of those relatives whose graves could be found. I don't know a lot about them, just family stories, but I know they were good young men who went off to serve their country, as required. They were just men and boys, as were the ones who fought for the Allies.

Anyway, if anyone has ideas on how I can further my KW collection, please post here. Thanks

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Vikki » 13 Aug 2011 17:39

Maggie07 wrote:To reopen this topic....I have been collecting Kriegsweihnachten cards for years. Previously, I had had some success on ebay, but there is a fella that just has very deep pockets and he's paying well beyond MY means. Can anyone suggest other sources to help continue my collection? I'm in the USA, so travelling to shops/flea markets in Europe isn't an option.
Hello Maggie07,

To prevent further competition for you, :wink: I've sent you a PM.

Best regards,

~Vikki

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Larrister » 14 Aug 2011 04:19

A German family make a toast to Christmas.

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by scruffy » 16 Aug 2011 22:37

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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by WeisseRose » 26 Sep 2011 13:43

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Under the Christmas tree 1900 - 1942

Post by Helmut0815 » 17 Dec 2012 19:56

Meet Mr. and Mrs. Wagner under their Christmas tree between 1900 and 1942 and see how times changes from imperial Germany, WWI, Weimar republic, Nazi era and WWII and how the Wagners become old.

Nice photo story at http://einestages.spiegel.de/external/S ... turedEntry


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Re: Christmas in the Third Reich

Post by Helmut0815 » 23 Dec 2018 12:21

Goebbels (along with his daughters Hilde & Helga) meets Santa Claus:

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Thread (30 photos): http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/ns-sp ... 65698.html

Article about toys in Nazi Germany: http://www.spiegel.de/einestages/nazi-s ... 43124.html (german language only)


best regards


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