*Experimental TANKS of the Allies - any info, please!*

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SiG I
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Post by SiG I » 01 Dec 2005 19:26

Hey, check this out:
I remembered seeing a question about this contraption in the ww2 quiz thread.
New Zeeland Bob Semple "tank"
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http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/newz ... aland.html

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Post by BIGpanzer » 01 Dec 2005 20:11

Hi, SiG I!

Thanks for the photo.
Yes, New Zealand armored traktor ("tank") "Bob Semple" was a strange design with very low military capabilities (3 or 4 copies were produced). The same were US "Disston" armored tractors (Afghanistan bought 16 copies) and Soviet "NI" and KhTZ-16 armored tractors (were built in heavy 1941-1942).
Of course, they were not the real tanks, but home-made armored tractors, were built as the temporary measure.

Similar armored tractors:
US "Disston" - http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/afgh ... nistan.jpg
Soviet "NI" and KhTZ-16 - http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=88523


Best regards, BIGpanzer

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Post by BIGpanzer » 02 Dec 2005 00:30

As for New Zealand tanks.

Of course, New Zealand was not a tank-producing country as was USSR, for example :lol:
But the engineers of New Zealand developed several interesting constructions, one of them was wheel-track tank by Schofield (Wellington), armed with 2 pdr gun and Besa MG. The tank used a suspension from Universal Carrier. Prototype was complited in August 1940, in mid 1943 the tank was shipped to Britain for evaluation tests, and was scrapped there after WWII.

http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/nz/scho/03332.jpg
http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/nz/scho/03333.jpg


http://www.czolgiem.com/inne/foto/bob%2 ... dia%20.jpg (one more photo of "Bob Semple")

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Post by BIGpanzer » 03 Dec 2005 23:56

I found the blueprints of the Soviet heavy tank SMK, which was, probably, the best and strongest world experimental tank construction just before WWII period:
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/BeforeWWII/SMK/bn/lat.gif
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/BeforeWWII/SMK/bn/dors.gif
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/BeforeWWII/SMK/bn/front.gif
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/BeforeWWII/SMK/bn/rear.gif
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/BeforeWWII/SMK/smk_1.gif

http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/BeforeWWII/SMK/smk_3.jpg

Also I found an interesting info about British heavy experimental tanks TOG I (64.5 t, 75mm OQF) and TOG II (81.2 t, 17 pdr OQF). Both had an armor 25-75mm. Prototypes were produced in 1939-1940, had a WWI-design and intended for the overcoming German fortifications - http://www.nelmes.fsnet.co.uk/paxman/paxtanks.htm

Photo of TOG I - http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/gb ... /02961.jpg
Photo of TOG II - http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/gb ... /03272.jpg
http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/tanks/tog2.jpg (preserved at Novington Tank Museum)

Also the photo of British heavy assault tank "Tortoise", A.39 (1943-1947, 6 copies - weight 78 tonns, armor up to 229 mm, armament . 94mm gun + 2 MGs). A.39 was designed specifically to outgun and outlast the heavy German tanks and self-propelled guns.
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Grea ... se-A39.jpg

Regards, BIGpanzer

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