July 20th Conspirators and the Jews

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Post by Molobo » 22 Jul 2005, 17:21

BTW, according to the same source you linked in 1910 42,5% of the population in Pomorze were Germans. Seems to have been pretty bi-national.
The number in 1910 includes military personel.Furthermore German population was settling in Polish areas after PartitionsAs you can see with the end of German occupation the number was 18%.
Jan-Hendrik is not wrong, the territory which is referred to as Pommern in German does denote the territory west of what Poles call Pomorze,
The Pomorze that was mentioned in the topic was the one which Poland regained after WWI, and which German conquered in September Campaign.

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Post by maxxx » 23 Jul 2005, 18:41

Couldn´t we get back to topic? Is the right polish term for "Pommern" or "Preussen" really relevant for the position of the conspirators towards the holocaust?

Considering that even Dönitz as hitler´s successor started some "investigations about criminal acts toward the jews" as soon as he was confronted with the size of the holocaust, I believe the conspirators, deeply involved in the ethics of conservative, christian believes would have stopped it as soon as possible.


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Post by Molobo » 23 Jul 2005, 20:04

Considering that even Dönitz as hitler´s successor started some "investigations about criminal acts toward the jews" as soon as he was confronted with the size of the holocaust
Some of Karl Donitz thoughts on Jews :
What would have become of our country today if the Fuehrer had not united us under National Socialism. Split by parties, beset with the spreading poison of Jewry and vulnerable to it, because we lacked the defence of our present uncompromising ideology, we would long since have succumbed under the burden of this war, and delivered ourselves up to the enemy who would have mercilessly destroyed us.
I was of the opinion that the endurance, the power to endure of the people, could be better preserved if there were no Jewish elements in the nation.
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I believe the conspirators, deeply involved in the ethics of conservative, christian believes
In a prison camp of the auxiliary cruiser Cormorau in Australia, a warrant officer, acting as camp senior officer, had all Communists, who made themselves noticeable among the inmates of the camps, systematically done away with in such a way that the guards did not notice. This petty officer is sure of my full recognition for his decision and its execution, and, after his return, I shall do everything I can to promote him, as he has shown he is fitted to be a leader

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Post by maxxx » 23 Jul 2005, 21:16

Was this murderous petty officer you wrote about in any way involved in the circle of the 20th of july?

And when even Dönitz, who was, according to your document, an antisemite and only playing the innocent, seems to have been worried and ashamed about the holocaust, why do you think the conspirators would not have stood up against it?

I am definitely on your side if it was the meaning of your post that Dönitz was no angel. But I never did connect him in any way to the circle of the conspirators, that held very different believes from Dönitz.

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Post by Molobo » 23 Jul 2005, 22:33

Was this murderous petty officer you wrote about in any way involved in the circle of the 20th of july?
Sorry for not giving links this was responce to Karl Donitz, it was his statement:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... enitz.html

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Post by maxxx » 24 Jul 2005, 15:36

I thought so. But Dönitz was in no way the central agenda of my post.

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