The official AHF Equipment of Allies & Neutrals quiz

varjag · Post by **varjag** » 01 May 2006 12:35

BIGpanzer wrote:It is Peruvian fighter NA-50A (Peru ordered 7 copies, received them in 1939) - probably, the photo was made during the war with Ecuador in 1941 (two NA-50A were lost during that war).
The question was to identify the aircraft - I think Varjag is the winner!

Thanks BIGpanzer - but I still claim that those cocardes under the wing - are Thai!

Brian Ross · Post by **Brian Ross** » 01 May 2006 12:55

Fair enough. I'll accept Varjag's answer although I will point out that last time I checked an Atlas, Thailand was not in the "southern hemisphere".

Brian Ross · Post by **Brian Ross** » 01 May 2006 12:56

varjag wrote:
BIGpanzer wrote:It is Peruvian fighter NA-50A (Peru ordered 7 copies, received them in 1939) - probably, the photo was made during the war with Ecuador in 1941 (two NA-50A were lost during that war).
The question was to identify the aircraft - I think Varjag is the winner!
Thanks BIGpanzer - but I still claim that those cocardes under the wing - are Thai!

The tail stripes aren't. If you look at the other photos of Peruvian NA-50s that are available on the web, you'll see they all have stiped tails. Thai markings in 1941 I don't think included such paintwork.

varjag · Post by **varjag** » 01 May 2006 13:01

I have seen the picture before - it may well have been a 'North American' publicity
shot.....Varjag

Michael Emrys · Post by **Michael Emrys** » 01 May 2006 13:09

I think BP is correct. In any event, the models built for the Royal Thai Air Force (but never delivered) were designated NA-68.

Michael

varjag · Post by **varjag** » 01 May 2006 13:10

Brian Ross wrote:Fair enough. I'll accept Varjag's answer although I will point out that last time I checked an Atlas, Thailand was not in the "southern hemisphere".

Well Brian - a 'tad bit' of Peru is also in the northern! But just to show you guys - whatta Big Heart Varjag has - I leave
the next question - to the next taker.......rgds, Varjag

Michael Emrys · Post by **Michael Emrys** » 01 May 2006 13:19

Sorry, varjag, this must not be your morning. I just looked in an atlas and every inch of Peru lies south of the equator. Perhaps you are thinking of Ecuador. About a fifth of that country lies north of the equator.

Michael

varjag · Post by **varjag** » 01 May 2006 13:23

Michael Emrys wrote:Sorry, varjag, this must not be your morning. I just looked in an atlas and every inch of Peru lies south of the equator. Perhaps you are thinking of Ecuador. About a fifth of that country lies north of the equator.

Michael

Mike it is very late evening in Oz! U are probably right - as geography was never my strong subject....
nitey nitey all - and hope to wake up to a NEW EXCITING QUESTION....Varjag

Juha Tompuri · Post by **Juha Tompuri** » 01 May 2006 20:28

I think it is a NA-68 with Thai emblems.

http://home.earthlink.net/~carlomagno/NA50.htm

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ht=#717996
( http://www.incaland.com/na-50/

)

Regards, Juha

BIGpanzer · Post by **BIGpanzer** » 01 May 2006 22:07

AFAIK Siam (Thailand) didn't receive NA-68 because those planes were arrested at Hawaii and returned back to USA after Japanese invasion into Thailand 12.1941. Wing markings are indeed Thai, why Brian said no to Varjag I don't now

- those planes were used by US, Thailand and Peru only.

Peruvian NA-50A had differ tail painting from the photo above, nevertheless:
http://www.aeronauta.com/aero.fenix/na-50a.gif
http://www.airwar.ru/transfer/grishan// ... s/42_1.jpg (19th Peruvian fighter squadron)

Thai air markings till 1940: http://www.airwar.ru/transfer/grishan// ... s/69_1.jpg (Bristol Bulldog MkII)
Thai air markings 1940-1941: http://www.airwar.ru/transfer/grishan// ... s/69_1.jpg (Curtiss H-75N Hawk)

Juha Tompuri · Post by **Juha Tompuri** » 01 May 2006 22:32

BIGpanzer wrote: those planes were used by US, Thailand and Peru only.

Actually, AFAIK, nobody used planes designated as NA-68's:
Peru used NA-50
Thailand used none
USA used P-64

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p64.html

Regards, Juha

BIGpanzer · Post by **BIGpanzer** » 01 May 2006 23:04

I just mentioned NA-68 as Thai order and generalized aircraft name

In reality the situation is the following:
NA-50A - 7 fighter-bombers for Peru, delivered in 1938-1939, 2 were lost in 1941 during the war with Ecuador.
NA-68 (NA-50A modification) - 6 fighter-bombers for Thailand, not delivered
P-64 (reequipped NA-68 into training disarmed aircrafts/communication aircraft) - USA, but the aircraft kept Thai painting. In 1943 renamed as RP-64 and removed from active service. One (No 41-19085 is preserving till now in Oskosh, USA)

Total 13 were produced.

PS Let's wait Varjag question

Regards, BP

varjag · Post by **varjag** » 02 May 2006 01:33

varjag wrote:
Brian Ross wrote:Fair enough. I'll accept Varjag's answer although I will point out that last time I checked an Atlas, Thailand was not in the "southern hemisphere".
Well Brian - a 'tad bit' of Peru is also in the northern! But just to show you guys - whatta Big Heart Varjag has - I leave
the next question - to the next taker.......rgds, Varjag

Question free........Varjag

BIGpanzer · Post by **BIGpanzer** » 02 May 2006 13:25

Well, just to fill the vacuum

The easiest question I have

- name this tank, please. Photo was made on the rear of the tank.

Photo is from http://naritafamily.com/Scalemodel/refe ... on_426.jpg

Virgil Hiltz · Post by **Virgil Hiltz** » 02 May 2006 13:32

M-47 Patton Tank