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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 19 Apr 2018, 10:14

Anyone for this bus? It's curious to see RHD with the passenger door also on the right side.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 19 Apr 2018, 21:44

Max wrote
I think it is an L 4000:
Ummhhh....I am not sure....The wheels and other details not match...

On the other hand, Any idea about the exact variant of this SdKfz 11 halftrack?

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by ilfil » 19 Apr 2018, 23:07

Maxschnauzer wrote:Anyone for this bus? It's curious to see RHD with the passenger door also on the right side.
Hi Max,
It is Tatra 23.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 19 Apr 2018, 23:38

Sturm78 wrote:
Max wrote
I think it is an L 4000:
Ummhhh....I am not sure....The wheels and other details not match...

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Hi Sturm,
I believe that Holger's pic shows the earlier model L 2/N2 with the spoked wheels. I figure the later L 4000 had the steel disc wheels and other detail variations. However, that Type is the only M-B I've seen with that particular headlamp mounting arrangement.
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 19 Apr 2018, 23:46

ilfil wrote:
Maxschnauzer wrote:Anyone for this bus? It's curious to see RHD with the passenger door also on the right side.
Hi Max,
It is Tatra 23.
Cheers!
Hi ilfil,
Thanks very much. I see now that there are passenger doors on the other side as well which address my concern.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by uncle » 20 Apr 2018, 08:42

Hi Pawel.
Maybe Ford BB
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by uncle » 20 Apr 2018, 09:01

Sturm78 wrote:
Max wrote
I think it is an L 4000:
Ummhhh....I am not sure....The wheels and other details not match...

On the other hand, Any idea about the exact variant of this SdKfz 11 halftrack?

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Hi Sturm.
Maybe Sd.Kfz. 11/3 Mittlerer Sprühkraftwagen (equipment not installed).
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by ilfil » 20 Apr 2018, 09:14

Maxschnauzer wrote:
ilfil wrote:
Maxschnauzer wrote:Anyone for this bus? It's curious to see RHD with the passenger door also on the right side.
Hi Max,
It is Tatra 23.
Cheers!
Hi ilfil,
Thanks very much. I see now that there are passenger doors on the other side as well which address my concern.
Hi Max,
Most probably the bus on your picture was upgraded (or fully re-bodied?) after 1938 under German management to conform new right hand traffic rules.
Cheers!
"...and on the 8th day He made truck so that man, made on 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night."

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Apr 2018, 16:12

Max wrote
I believe that Holger's pic shows the earlier model L 2/N2 with the spoked wheels. I figure the later L 4000 had the steel disc wheels and other detail variations. However, that Type is the only M-B I've seen with that particular headlamp mounting arrangement.
Well, perhaps you are right...I have seen very few images of these models....

Thanks, Max
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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Apr 2018, 16:12

uncle wrote
Maybe Sd.Kfz. 11/3 Mittlerer Sprühkraftwagen (equipment not installed).
I think you are right...Thanks, uncle... :wink:

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by SIS 5 » 22 Apr 2018, 19:37

Hi Max,

to Your question about the MAN. You are right, of course. It is the civil version. It could be the type "E 1" or "E 2".

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by SIS 5 » 22 Apr 2018, 19:44

Hi Sturm 78,

the police truck, which identified uncle as a Mercedes-Benz could be the type O 3000.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by SIS 5 » 22 Apr 2018, 19:51

Hi Pawel,

the first truck on Your pics is an Opel Blitz 1,5 t type 2,5 - 32.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by SIS 5 » 22 Apr 2018, 20:08

Hi Sturm, hi Max,

sorry Max. Today I don´t agree with You according to the Mercedes-Benz truck. The type L 4000 is too big, and the L 1000 is too small for truck on the pic. I think it is the type N 1. Here a pic out of the book "Mercedes Benz Lastwagen und Omnibusse" by Werner Oswald.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 23 Apr 2018, 00:12

Hi Bert,
You're right. Somehow I missed the pic on Holger's site which shows that unique headlamp arrangement also on this type:
Mercedes_Benz_Typ_L_1_IE-197323_WH-_Munch_via_Hoppe.jpg
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The Mercedes-Benz type L 1 resp. N 1 (low chassis) for 1.5 - 1.75 tons payload was manufactured beginning in 1927. Without visible changes, it was renamed to L 2000 in 1930.
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... z_l_1.html
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