Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Oct 2021, 14:33

Hi Rob,

thanks for Your answer, but it isn´t a Phänomen Granit Kübel. Here a pic of such a Kübel for comparing.
Please, be careful, it is not a Kübel, but a truck.

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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 20 Oct 2021, 10:01

Hi,

another hint: have a look on the spare wheel.

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Bert


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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 20 Oct 2021, 20:39

SIS 5 wrote:
20 Oct 2021, 10:01
Hi,

another hint: have a look on the spare wheel.

Regards

Bert
Never mind that , look at the engine cooling "squares" :lol:
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 20 Oct 2021, 23:41

Hi Bert,
Einheits Diesel?
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 21 Oct 2021, 00:13

Hi Max,

that´s it! Great! I am very grateful to You, that You have the right answer. I thought that cannot be! I know it was an unusual perspective. But I didn´t expect that it will last such a long time. But now it´s Your turn to go on with the quiz.

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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 21 Oct 2021, 23:44

Thank you, Bert.
I think the reason your photo was so puzzling is that from the photographic angle the unusually spaced bonnet louvers of the Einheits LKW appeared to be flapper vents such as on the vehicles Dirk and Rob submitted. I spent a week searching for such a light lorry, spare wheel or none, before realizing that and eventually finding a view of the Einheits bonnet from above showing the "cooling squares" that Alan mentioned. That was a great challenge.

Anyway, I'm sure the Polizei vehicle below won't last nearly as long.
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 27 Oct 2021, 18:26

Hi Max,

could it be a Wanderer? Maybe the type W 22?

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 Oct 2021, 23:06

Hi Bert,
Great answer!! I was hoping it would last over 200 views like your last one but... :wink:
It's a Wanderer for sure. It's hard to tell from the back but it could be a W 22. I call it a W 26 only because I have a photo of one outfitted as a Polizei Tourenwagen:
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In either case your answer is feasible, so please continue with the new quiz subject.
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 28 Oct 2021, 00:15

Hi Max,

thanks ! But it was not a great answer! My answer is wrong! Sorry, it was a wild guess. Yes, it is a Wanderer. I could only find one pic of such a police car presented in autumn 1936. It was the only model especially constructed for the police, for the motorized gendarmerie, specialized for the supervision of the Autobahn (highway) and arterial roads. It was not identical with the normal open Tourenwagen. Source of the pic and this information: "Die Kraftfahrzeuge der Polizei und des Bundesgrenzschutzes" by Werner Oswald.
After all I think it could be the type W 51: introduced in 1936 and with two spare wheels beside the bonnet.

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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 28 Oct 2021, 22:50

Hi Bert,
That is quite interesting. I thought that the commercial W 51 Spezial had the newer rounded nose so this must have been a really special spezial.
I any case I have consulted with our panel of distinguished judges and they have declared the correct answer to be "Wanderer Polizei Tourenwagen", therefore you are correct and welcome to continue with the next quiz subject.

Here's another one (Pol-1703) to add to the mix,
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 29 Oct 2021, 08:24

Hi Bert,
Do you know how Pol plates were numbered, i.e. by region, or order of issued date?
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 29 Oct 2021, 23:22

Hi Max,

to Your question about the license plates of the police:

first the German police cars and trucks had normal license plates until 1935 (for example "IA 86753" - IA for Berlin), because Germany was subdivided in states (Saxony - Württemberg - Baden - Bayern - Preussen and so on). Each state had its own police. In 1935 the police became part of the SS in the National Socialist Germany and from then on the vehicles got the license plates with "Pol" = police. I cannot say, if the plates were numbered by region, or order of issued date, but I think that it was numbered in order of issued date.

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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 29 Oct 2021, 23:37

Hi Max,

thanks a lot. Here is the next question:
can You tell me the company which produced such a type ot truck.

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Bert
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 31 Oct 2021, 22:33

Hi Bert,
I'd say a Krupp L 2 H 242
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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by SIS 5 » 01 Nov 2021, 18:42

Hi Max,

very good! You are right, it is a Krupp truck. It could be the type L 2 H 242. But it could also be the type LD 2 H 242 with a Diesel engine. It is impossible to say From this view.
Please, go on with the quiz!

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Bert

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