Identifying distribution of Sd. Kfz. 233?

[Martin Block]

Thank you for the tip Aris! Didn't notice that one before. Checked my files again and found that on 31.7.1942 OKH/Chef H Rüst u BdE ordered W.K. III to form a 'Personaleinheit' s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) for Pz.Späh-Kp. 287/Wüsten-Sonderverband 287. 6 Sd.Kfz. 233 would be provided by Chef H Rüst u BdE/AHA/Ag K/In 6. On 9.4.1943 Pz.Späh-Kp. 287 was renamed to Pz.Späh-Kp. 468 for the LXVIII. A.K..
If the delivery actually took place I can't tell for sure because I have no strength reports of the unit itself available. But it could well be since as late as 30.12.1944 in an overview prepared by the Quartermaster General a single s.Pz.Sp.Wg. 7,5 cm ist listed with Pz.Späh-Kp. 468 together with the Italian recce vehicles mentioned by Aris.
I have added the unit as probable to my above listing.

Thanks again Aris!

Martin Block

[Lannes]

Martin,
Some indirect evidence: a recent eBay phot lot of the Sdv 287, that carries on after the renaming into GR 92, includes a photo of a Sdfz 233- I'll have to check, but I don't recall any units they operated with (and the photo is taken in the Balkans) that were supposed to have one except the 468th. Thank you for supplying the "paper trail" for the sPSW issue.
best regards
Aris Kosionidis

[Kelvin]

hello

[Kelvin]

Interesting challenge which 'forced' me to compile the following

(almost) complete allocation list for Sd.Kfz. 233

Sources used:
- Gen.Insp.d.Pz.Tr. allocation list for Pz.Späh-Wagen May 1943 to April 1945*
- monthly status reports of major armored units to Gen.Insp.d.Pz.Tr. June/July 1943 to Feb./March 1945
- Files of OKH/GenStdH/Org.Abt. and Chef H Rüst u BdE covering fromation, organisation, refit etc. of Pz.Truppen
- T. Jentz, Panzer Tracts 13
[*Note: These allocation files start only in May 1943 and for the most part distinguish only between "le.Pz.Späh-Wg." and "s.Pz.Späh-Wg.". So they are of limited help only. Remarks about exact variants of vehicles are rare, but when found exact shpment dates are shown below.]

1. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 1) = 6 shipped 2. Jun. 1943

2. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 2) = 6 arrived sometime before May 1943

3. Pz.Div.: no (T)eil(E)inheit. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

4. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 4) = 6 shipped 9. Sep. 1943

5. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

6. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 6) = 6 arrived sometime before May 1943

7. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 7) = 6 arrived sometime before May 1943

8. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

9. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 9) = 6 arrived sometime before May 1943

10. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found

11. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised in 1942/43, May 1944 1 Sd.Kfz. 233 taken over from 273. Res.Pz.Div. and used with Stabskp./Pz.A.A. 11

12. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

13. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 13) reported presence of 3 Sd.Kfz. 233 for the first time in status report 1.6.1944 = 3, no matching shipment found. 'Hidden' under s.Pz.Sp.Wg. in earlier reports or taken over from other unit?

14. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 14) = 6 shipped 21. Aug. 1943

15. Pz.Div.: T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) with 6 Sd.Kfz. 233 authorised for 1./Pz.A.A. 33 on 16.6.1942. Could not establish if vehicles were actually delivered.

16. Pz.Div. (2./Pz.A.A. 16) = 6 arrived before May 1943

17. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

18. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

19. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

20. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

21. Pz.Div. (Afrika): : T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) with 6 Sd.Kfz. 233 authorised for 1./Pz.A.A. 3 on 16.6.1942. Could not establish if vehicles were actually delivered.

21. Pz.Div. (Ob. West) (2./Pz.A.A. 21) = 6 shipped on 17. Aug. 1943 (originally to Pz.A.Lehr-Abt. which was renamed to Pz.A.A. 21 in Sep. 1943)

22. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found

23. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 23) = 6 possibly shipped on 25. Okt. 1943 (date likely for several reasons but yet unconfirmed)

24. Pz.Div.: T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised on 7.4.1943 but no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

25. Pz.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 25) = 6 shipped on 6. Sep. 1943

26. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

27. Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found

116. Pz.Div.: no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports (1 could have come from 179. Res.Pz.Div. in May 1944 but it doesn't show up in status reports)

155. Res.Pz.Div.: no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports

179. Res.Pz.Div. (1./Res.Pz.A.A. 1) = 1 arrived sometime before Dec. 1943, unknown if incorporated into Pz.A.A. 116 in May 1944

233. Res.Pz.Div.: no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports

273. Res.Pz.Div. (1./Res.Pz.A.A. 7) = 1 arrived sometime before Dec. 1943, May 1944 incorporated into Stabskp./Pz.A.A. 11 (11. Pz.Div.)

Pz.Lehr-Div.: no Sd.Kfz. 233 authorised nor delivered or reported

Fsch.Pz.Div. HG Pz.A.A. HG: although a T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) was authorised in 1943, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

3. Pz.Gren.Div. (1./Pz.A.A. 103) = 6 shipped on 15.11. or 15.12.1943

10. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

15. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

16. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

18. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

20. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

25. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

29. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

(60.) Pz.Gren.Div. FHH (1./Pz.A.A. FHH) = 6 shipped on 13. Sep. 1943

90. Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

Pz.Gren.Div. GD (1. or 2./Pz.A.A. GD) = 6 arrived sometime before May 1943

Pz.Verband 700 (Pz.Späh-Kp. 700): T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) with 6 Sd.Kfz. 233 authorised for Pz.Sp.Kp. 700 on 16.10.1942. Could not establish if vehicles were actually delivered.

90. Lei.Afrika-Div.: T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) with 6 Sd.Kfz. 233 authorised for 1./Pz.A.A. 580 on 3.10.1942. Could not establish if vehicles were actually delivered.

164. Lei.Afrika-Div.: 1./Pz.A.A. 220 = 6 arrived in 6 Africa on 27. Nov. 1942 (Kp. used to form Pz.A.A. 190 (Heerestruppe for Pz.A.O.K. 5) in March/April 1943)

Wüsten-Sonderverband 287: On 31.7.1942 OKH/Chef H Rüst u BdE ordered W.K. III to form a 'Personaleinheit' s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) for Pz.Späh-Kp. 287. 6 Sd.Kfz. 233 would be provided by Chef H Rüst u BdE/AHA/Ag K/In 6. On 9.4.1943 Pz.Späh-Kp. 287 was renamed to Pz.Späh-Kp. 468 for the LXVIII. A.K..
If the delivery to Pz.Späh-Kp. 287 actually took place I can't tell for sure because I have no strength reports of the unit itself available. But it could well be since as late as 30.12.1944 in an overview prepared by the Quartermaster General a single s.Pz.Sp.Wg. 7,5 cm is listed with Pz.Späh-Kp. 468 together with some Italian recce vehicles.

Aufkl.Kp. 'T' = 12 arrived in Africa on 16. Nov. 1942 (No further information about this unit available. Where did it belong to? Were these vehicles then possibly distributed among other units in Africa like 15., 21. Pz.Div. and/or 90. lei.Div.???)

Sturm-Div. Rhodos (1./Pz.A.A. Rhodos) = 6 (originally 1./Pz.A.A. 999 and intended for Afrika-Div. 999, shipped before May 1943)

1. SS-Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

2. SS-Pz.Div. (1./SS-Pz.A.A. 2) = at least 2 arrived sometime before May 1943

3. SS-Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

4. SS-Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

5. SS-Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

9. SS-Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

10. SS-Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports after summer 1943

11. SS-Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports

12. SS-Pz.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports

16. SS-Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports

17. SS-Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports

18. SS-Pz.Gren.Div.: no T.E. s.Pz.Späh-Zug (7,5 cm) authorised, no evidence for delivery or presence of Sd.Kfz. 233 found in available status reports


Ersatzheer = 1 shipped on 16. Sep. 1943


All told I counted 116 more or less confirmed allocations of Sd.Kfz. 233. That means at least 3 of the not included possible deliveries of (6) each to 15., 21. Pz.Div., 90. lei.Div., Pz.Späh-Kp. 287/468 and Pz.Verband 700 can't have happened since only 129 Sd.Kfz. 233 were build!
I think it is likely that the 2. SS-Pz.Div. also received not only 2 but a full platoon of 6 Sd.Kfz., but since I have no evidence I counted only the 2 I could establish for sure.
I also could not find out if there were more Sd.Kfz. 233 among the 10 s.Pz.Sp.Wg. shipped to the replacement army between May and Oct 1943 other than the 1 already listed above.

So I can't claim the above list to be complete and 100% accurate, but as a start not bad don't you think ?
Additions and corrections always welcome!


Martin Block

Hi, Martin, according to 5 Panzer division OOB chart on Dec 1 1944, there were three mounted 7 .5 gun armored car in stab kompanie of Pz AA 5, if 5 Panzer division did not have 233 after summer of 1943 and she also did not receive any 234/3, what kind of this vehicles ? Thank

[Kelvin]

14. Pz.Div.:
The s.Pz.Sp.Zug 7,5 cm for the 1./Pz.A.A. 14 had indeed already been authorized on 7.4.1943 but from my available files it took until August 1943 before the 6 Sd.Kfz. 233 were actually shipped! No shipments of any s.Pz.Sp.Wg. at all were recorded during May, June and July 1943. If any had been shipped already during April why didn't they appear until 1.10.1943?

24. Pz.Div.:
My fault, actually a s.Pz.Sp.Zug 7,5 cm for the 1./Pz.A.A. 24 had been authorized with the same order also on 7.4.1943 (original post corrected accordingly) and so does show up in the 'Soll-Gliederungen' from summer 1943 and in 1944. Nevertheless, looking at the available monthly status reports ('Ist-Gliederungen') of the division starting with 25.7.1943 NO Sd.Kfz. 233 were listed at any given time! The heaviest weapon listed remained the 2 cm Kwk and nothing else. Between May 1943 and Dec 1944 only 2 s.Pz.Sp.Wg. were shipped to the Division in June 1943 and all indications are they were 2 cm armed Sd.Kfz. 232. So at the time being I stick to my statment that the 24. Pz.Div. didn't get any 233!

3. Pz.Gren.Div.:
Yes, when the 3. Inf.Div.(mot.) was re-created in early 1943 after Stalingrad the 'Soll-Gliederung' actually already included a s.Pz.Späh-Zug 7,5 cm. But again available status reports for 1943/44 do NOT show the presence of any Sd.Kfz. 233 before 1.2.1944! So until teached otherwise by new documents I again stick to my earlier statement.

But doesn't Leo usually present the 'Soll-Gliederungen' and not the 'Ist-Gliederungen' in his WW2 Organisational Series? That would easily explain the differences.

Martin Block

I find at least one sdkfz 233 delivered to 14. Pz division during Dec 1944. On and Nov 1 and Dec 1 1944, 14 Pz division OB chart show one 7.5 cm gun meant 233 and on Dec 30 1944, there were two sdkfz 233. So one delivered during December.