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Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
Raul, that particular vehicle is marked as belonging to a Funklenk unit for mine clearing.
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Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
Hello to all ;
thank you very much Alan . Cheers. Raúl M .Raul, that particular vehicle is marked as belonging to a Funklenk unit for mine clearing
Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
Hello to all ; something more....................
Panzerbefehlswagen - in action!
Source: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/536491374331344674/
http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-12,701119.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
Panzerbefehlswagen - in action!
Source: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/536491374331344674/
http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-12,701119.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Panzerbefehlswagen I Ausf. B (Sd.Kfz. 265) rolling through a Polish village ..................................
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Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
Now that is an intriguing photograph. How can we reconcile the Polish Campaign solid white crosses and the almost DAK coloured cap on the man (not a Mountain Soldier) sitting at the table both being in the same shot ?
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Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
Maybe it is the lighting. The Panzerbefehlswagen also looks light for Panzergrau.
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Panzerbefehlswagen III - Ausf.D1 in the Polish Campaign 1939.
Sources: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-11 ... tml#687400
Cheers. Raul M .
Panzerbefehlswagen III - Ausf.D1 in the Polish Campaign 1939.
Sources: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-11 ... tml#687400
Cheers. Raul M .
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- About to ford a river.......................
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Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
Hello to all ; something more....................
Panzerbefehlswagen - in action!
Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-17,747644.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
Panzerbefehlswagen - in action!
Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-17,747644.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Close view of a Sd Kfz 263 (8-rad) Funkwagen and beyond it a Panzerbefehlswagen III - Ausf.D1 surpassed by a Pz Kw II ...............................
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Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
I'm a bit late with this observation. Soz.
At bottom of 1st page, on 20/Nov/15, Tigre posted 2 pics of a Pz.1, K.O.d at Radom in Sept. 39. It has a unique frame.
The tank is number I09 not 109, as u can see the "I" just right of the white cross in the top pic. So its a 1st Battalion HQ tank, but actual command-radio-equiped tanks were "usually" lower numbers, like 00,01,02,03...I know of an 06 with a frame antenna, so 09 is still possible. This Pz.1 has a normal gun turret, which could just about hold a FuG5 size receiver and transmitter, like in the very first Pz.1A befehlswagen that just had a plain turret, but it couldn't fit the larger 20watt/30watt radios and generators that were in the larger Pz1B befehlswagen superstructures. So it wouldn't be a very useful befehlswagen.
The frame instantly reminded me of the frames on British fascine carrier tanks. It's shape is perfect. Flat at the back to hold the fascine, then loops over the turret and the frames go all the way down to below the front tow hooks, which is much farther forward than other radio frames. These radio aerial frames were a bit delicate, so having one protruding from the lower front would be daft. And if this tank were in a field of long wet grass, couldn't a wet grass stalk that touched the lower front frame just short out the aerial? (me no electrician)
So I think it's a field mod fascine carrier. I can't point to any launching apparatus, (tho a bit of rope and a small pully would suffice) but if one drove the tank fast then suddenly braked, that'd probably roll the fascine fascine all the way over the front.
Cheers Bam.
At bottom of 1st page, on 20/Nov/15, Tigre posted 2 pics of a Pz.1, K.O.d at Radom in Sept. 39. It has a unique frame.
The tank is number I09 not 109, as u can see the "I" just right of the white cross in the top pic. So its a 1st Battalion HQ tank, but actual command-radio-equiped tanks were "usually" lower numbers, like 00,01,02,03...I know of an 06 with a frame antenna, so 09 is still possible. This Pz.1 has a normal gun turret, which could just about hold a FuG5 size receiver and transmitter, like in the very first Pz.1A befehlswagen that just had a plain turret, but it couldn't fit the larger 20watt/30watt radios and generators that were in the larger Pz1B befehlswagen superstructures. So it wouldn't be a very useful befehlswagen.
The frame instantly reminded me of the frames on British fascine carrier tanks. It's shape is perfect. Flat at the back to hold the fascine, then loops over the turret and the frames go all the way down to below the front tow hooks, which is much farther forward than other radio frames. These radio aerial frames were a bit delicate, so having one protruding from the lower front would be daft. And if this tank were in a field of long wet grass, couldn't a wet grass stalk that touched the lower front frame just short out the aerial? (me no electrician)
So I think it's a field mod fascine carrier. I can't point to any launching apparatus, (tho a bit of rope and a small pully would suffice) but if one drove the tank fast then suddenly braked, that'd probably roll the fascine fascine all the way over the front.
Cheers Bam.
Re: Panzerbefehlswagen
Thanks for sharing your point of view Bam . Cheers. Raúl M .