Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by bam » 19 Jun 2021 22:37

I recall there was an Aufklarer 38t with a pak40 instead of its hangelafette turret, in a canfora book, is it that? From a collection dump in Czech, with Brandenburg division vehicles...?

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by brano » 20 Jun 2021 13:20

Yes, Aufklärunspanzer 38(t).
Over to you, bam.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by bam » 20 Jun 2021 19:26

Righto, here's my quiz question, what are these afv? Bonus if u can name their users...
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by arminfreitag » 20 Jun 2021 22:57

Hi Bam
it's a Bren carrier converted to a remote controlled demolition charge carrier.
They were used for the first time on the Krim summer 1942 by 3./ Panzer-Abteilung 300 (FL).

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by bam » 20 Jun 2021 23:57

Jeez, I'd hoped it would take a bit longer to solve than that....i was stumped when I first saw the image.
Technically , i think this is not a remote controlled vehicle, like the borgward 301, which was radio controlled, ie remotely...the bren carrier was wire guided, hence the big wire spool on the back. Like the goliath, wire command controlled.
I'm really splitting hairs though, apologies... :roll:
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So bonus points to armin!
Over to you, for another dose of Armin's Freaky Vehicles (afv's)

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by arminfreitag » 21 Jun 2021 21:58

Hi Bam
thank you for the new meaning of AFVs. I feel flattered.
You set the bar high for my next question.
In the moment I'm very busy so I don't have the time to
look for something unusual.
So I hope this vehicle is not so easy to identify but I'm
afraid that the solution comes quickly.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by Darek Piotrowski » 22 Jun 2021 00:08

I found such a photo, in my opinion the Panzerbefehlswagen I has a non-standard Kugelblende and the barrel also does not look like the MG34. Does anyone have any idea what vehicle it is from?
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by Bagaudas » 22 Jun 2021 09:37

Good Morning.

I think it is one of the first models of the obsolete Panzer I. Surely, here the armored reconnaissance unit of some armored division would be using it. I don't know if that mark, the one he carries with the two swords, could be the mark of the 4 Panzerdivision. The panther belongs to the SS Wiking Division, and I believe elements of the 4th Panzerdivision were on one of its flanks. That model of Panzer I was used a lot in the Spanish Civil War.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by bam » 22 Jun 2021 09:59

Armin, doh! You've posted the exact same quiz picture of Adolf visiting Manstein at Zaporozhe in Feb 43, and looking at the Skoda T15, that I put up in post #441....that you solved! Short memories eh...I agree with you that it takes time and effort to find a good quiz image. luckily, I saw a perfect one in a new book that arrived this week, which didnt take much effort, so I'll post it next post.
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The PzBefWg.I does indeed have a weird mg...its a stick. Wooden..
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The clearer photo is from the Unternehmen ILse book. The tank "Tiger" was from Pz.Art.Rgt. 103 from 4th Pz.D. They had loaned their artillery observer vehicles, including the background 253 halftrack, to 5SS Wiking, who didn't have any after losing theirs in the Cherkassy/Korsun pocket. Wiking was assaulting soviet positions near Kovel on 27 April 44, in operation ILSE .
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by bam » 22 Jun 2021 10:07

Quiz question..what (was) this wreck?
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by arminfreitag » 22 Jun 2021 19:59

Hi Bam
you are absolutely right. Sometimes my memory is short.
Anyway your new picture looks interesting.
My first impression is that it looks like a 8,8 cm Flak 36 on a halftrack.
In the moment I cannot say more.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by bam » 29 Jun 2021 11:16

I'm happily surprised that I've finally found an image that's taking time to solve.
As far as I know, there were only 7 German vehicles mounting the 8.8cm L.56, so this image shouldn't be hard.
I'll give you a clue....its not a Tiger 1 or Tiger (P) ! That leaves 5 others to choose from, and 2 of them are fully tracked tanks...

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by arminfreitag » 29 Jun 2021 22:20

Hi Bam
in the moment I can think of only 4 other tracked Sfls with 8,8 cm Flak L/56.
The fully tracked vehicles should be the Versuchsflakwagen and a Flak on Pz IV chassis.
Halftracks are the Bunkerflak on 12 to Sdkfz 8 and the Flak on the 18 to Sdkfz 9.
On wheeled vehicles there is the Vomag which does not have a shield for the Flak
and there was allegedly a Flak mounted on a Krupp Protze.
So I think it's the Sdkfz 9.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by bam » 30 Jun 2021 20:23

Nope, not the Famo sdkfz9.

I'm doubtful of the possibility of a krupp protze mounting an 88mm...that would be way too overloaded. You're talking about 3-4 tons of gun, depending on how much of the lafette is used, and then if that gun fires, the forces go way up. The protze only weighed 2.6 tons, and could carry a respectable 1.1 tons. But that's way below what's necessary for the 88. I doubt the protze could even tow an 88 properly.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

Post by arminfreitag » 30 Jun 2021 22:58

Hi Bam
for me it still looks like a halftrack as the mudguards of the front wheels are clearly visible.
If it is not Sdkfz 9 it must be a Bunkerflak. But the Flak shield looks totally different.

As for the Krupp Protze here is the picture. I admit that it is unrealistic that's why I
wrote allegedly.

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