Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Alanmccoubrey
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 27 Mar 2022, 17:39

Yes indeed.
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Post by arminfreitag » 27 Mar 2022, 20:59

Hi everybody,
forgot if I have posted this already. If yes, sorry about it.
If no, what vehicle is it?

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 03 Apr 2022, 15:16

Look like a modified Italian 47/32 self propelled gun.

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Post by arminfreitag » 03 Apr 2022, 17:45

Hi Roland1369
thank you for the try, but I'm sorry to tell you that it isn't Italian.
If you go a bit further north you'll find the country of origin.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by Rnox » 03 Apr 2022, 19:16

arminfreitag wrote:
27 Mar 2022, 20:59
Hi everybody,
forgot if I have posted this already. If yes, sorry about it.
If no, what vehicle is it?

Regards
Armin
Hi Armin,

ADMK - 7. Flieger-Division...

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Post by arminfreitag » 04 Apr 2022, 20:45

Hi Rnox
very good. That's exactly what it is.
Over to you. Hope we can keep the quiz going for a while.

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Armin

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 05 Apr 2022, 10:36

Armin, as an aside, was the ADMK actually armoured ? I know it kind of led to the SdKfz 254 which was armoure but I have no idea about the "original".
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by arminfreitag » 06 Apr 2022, 00:28

Hi Alan
originally the ADMK was developed as a prime mover, carrying a crew of 3 with a pulling power
of 1000 kp, pulling infantry and mountain guns or motars. 300 kp of ammunition could be carried.
It was also used as a MG-carrier. Between 1935 and 1938 334 pieces were produced. Under German
control the ADMK was equipped with a superstructure and mainly used in northern front sectors.
Of course it was not armoured. I think the one in the picture was lightly armoured and used as a
security vehicle on an air-field.
The SdKfz 254 did not originate from the ADMK. It was a separate development of the Austrian
Saurerwerke type RR from 1935 which could switch between tracks and wheels while driving slowly.

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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 06 Apr 2022, 10:38

Thanks, Armin. I was glad to see someone else was pointed at the Semovente 47 by that curved plate on the suspension !
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Post by bam » 05 May 2023, 16:58

It's been a year since last posts, so I hope no one minds if I have a go...

What's this monster?
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 05 May 2023, 21:17

Bam, that looks very like a Soviet photo fake of what they would probably have called an SU122i.
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Post by bam » 06 May 2023, 01:11

"they would probably have called [it] an SU122i "....well, the Soviets actually called it an SG 122, 'Artshturm', so I think you just made your own designation up (LOL). And its not faked, its a photo of the prototype.
But yes, it's a 122mm howitzer stuck onto a StuG chassis in an enlarged casemate, with 70mm frontal armour, weighed 23.3 tons.. Prototype in June 42. 21 built from Oct 1942, from StuG chassis & possibly a couple of Pz3 chassis too. Saw action when 14 were delivered to a mixed SU76 & SG122 battalion, and fought just in March 43. Some were burnt destroyed but the rest kept breaking down so were relegated to training schools.
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But they were the first heavy Soviet SPG, predating the SU76i (trailed in March 43) & the SU122 (prototype late summer 42, production begins Dec42).
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Miraculously from such a small production, 1 still survives.
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 06 May 2023, 20:27

Bam, So this tankarchive place would have us believe that this was the ONLY SP unit in the entire Soviet Arsenal which wasn't an SU ? The "i" would also have differentiated it from the native SU-122.

In either case it isn't really an Axis vehicle is it ? ... he said trying to wriggle out of having to find an new quiz subject :lol:
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Re: Axis Armored Vehicles Quiz

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Post by arminfreitag » 06 May 2023, 23:00

Hi Bam, Alan
that was about time that someone restarted this thread.
I hope we can keep it going for a while.
Thanks and regards
Armin

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