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[Ivan Ž.]

Hello, dear car experts and everyone else!

Please help, if you can, with ID of the following 7 cars (the first 4 photos were taken in April 1941):

Car 1, front and rear (294. Inf.Div.)

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Car 2, side

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Car 3, rear, and partially visible front-side (nose)

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Car 4, side

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[Ivan Ž.]

Car 5, front (spring 1943)

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Car 6, rear (spring 1943)

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Car 7, partially visible left front-side (1943/1944, probably Italian)

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Thanks very much in advance,
Ivan

[kerryboo]

Ivan,
With a quick look, picture 1 is a Simca 8, picture 4 is a Steyr 220, I think. I will look at the rest,
Kerry.

[kerryboo]

Photo 3, Opel Kapitan?
Kerry.

[Ivan Ž.]

Pheew... What's 10 times better expression than "darn, you are good!"

That was fast, thanks a lot, Kerry.

Cheers,
Ivan

[shamirnewell]

1) NSU Fiat 1100
2) Daimler Benz 170 V?
3) Opel Kapitan
4) Steyr 220
5) Ford V8 G81A
6) Opel Super Six
7) BMW I believe

[Ivan Ž.]

Thanks very much, shamirnewell! I was just looking at some pics of Simca 8 / NSU Fiat 1100 / Fiat 508 C wondering which is it. Would Kerry agree it's NSU Fiat 1100?

Ivan

[kerryboo]

Ivan,
To the best of my memory, the NSU-Fiat had doors hinged from the rear with a large handle to the front. It is possible that it is one of the Fiat 508C Balila 1100 imported into Germany, but I go with the French Simca licence-built Balila,
Kerry.

[shamirnewell]

Kerry is correct on the Simca/Fiat. The NSU Fiat had rear hinged doors.

[ilfil]

Whan it comes to cars I'm almost an ignorant but I also think No.1 is Simca 8. It is the only one with marker lights on the front fenders, no such feature on the original 508/1100 Fiat and NSU-Fiat 1100 cars. And yes, NSU was with "suicide doors".
Cheers!

[Ivan Ž.]

Thank you, gentlemen, you are beyond all expectations!

I agree about Simca 8 too, I've looked closely and compared the various variants for the past half an hour.

So, the list so far:

1) Simca 8
2) ? (is it Daimler Benz 170 V?)
3) Opel Kapitän
4) Steyr 220
5) Ford V8-G81A
6) Opel Super 6
7) ? (is it a BMW?)

Thanks for helping,
Ivan

[Luftflotte2]

I agree 7 is a BMW.

[Ivan Ž.]

Thank you, Luftflotte2. Judging by the headlights position, and the other visible details, this might be the match http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... w_321.html

Any opinions / other options?
Ivan

[shamirnewell]

I believe it to be consistent with either the 320,321, or 326 models by BMW. Not enough of car number 7 is visible for me any more definitive in my opinion.

Thanks for the discussion on Fiat/Simca/NSU-Fiat. Very informative.

Thanks for posting the pics.

[Ivan Ž.]

No, thank you! All of you.

But what about the "car 2", it doesn't seem it's Daimler Benz 170 V, although there are many similarities (or am I missing something?)

Cheers,
Ivan