Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by RandJS » 11 Feb 2017, 14:24

Hi,

Can someone explain the differences in the Hf.11 and Hf.13 field kitchens? I've got the basics: the main boiler of 200 l in the middle and the 90 l coffee boiler on the side. But what were the differences? Did both have two hatches on the coffee boiler? And what about the compartments in the back? Different reports show a roasting unit on one version and two or three storage compartments at the rear. Any details are appreciated. Any info on the Hf.12/Hf.14 differences are appreciated also!

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Rand

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by SIS 5 » 13 Feb 2017, 23:40

Hi Rand,

please, wait a little bit. I will try to answer tomorrow.

Regards

Bert


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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by RandJS » 14 Feb 2017, 03:32

Hi Bert,

Sure, no rush. Whenever you have time.

TIA,

Rand

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Feb 2017, 10:57

Hi Rand,

now I can tell You something about the differences between Hf. 11 and Hf. 13.
Let´s begin with the rear view. Here apic of both types. On the left the Hf. 11. You can notice a difference between the catches of the fireplaces on the left and in the middle down, also the catch on the right at the top. And there is a difference between the flap in front of the pot. The Hf. 11 had two rows with nine holes, Hf. 13 two rows with 14 holes.
Part two will follow.

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Feb 2017, 11:15

Hi,

now to the front view and the most remarkable distiction mark, the chimney. Hf. 11 had a conical chimney with a ring on the top, Hf. 14 a round chimney without the ring. On the front part there are differences in the compartments as You can see on the pics.

Part three will follow.

Bert
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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Feb 2017, 11:21

Hi,

now to the left side. The Hf. 11 has two compartments for the coffee boiler, Hf. 13 only one. On the pics You can see the different chimneys of both types once more.
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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Feb 2017, 12:59

Hi,

one more difference, here between the limbers. The box of the limber Hf. 11 was made out of wood (up), Hf. 13 (down) out of steel sheet.
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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Feb 2017, 13:59

Hi,

now to the last difference as far as I know: the spring connection between the limber and the field kitchen (Federprotzverbindung):
Hf. 11 has a connection with holes in it, the Hf. 13 without the holes.

I hope You will understand my explanations.

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by RandJS » 18 Feb 2017, 14:44

Hi Bert,

Yes and Thank you very much for sharing these pictures and pointing out the details!

One more question for clarification: In part 2, the front of the Hf.11 shows three compartments.
The one on the right appears to be a cooker? Any details? And two storage compartments on the left.
While the Hf. 13 appears to have storage compartments.

Thanks again for your help!

Rand

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by SIS 5 » 18 Feb 2017, 22:44

Hi Rand,

here is a drawing of the parts - compartments of the Hf. 11 with their contents. The compartment on the right appears to be a cooker, but it is the compartment for the "Kochbadflüssigkeit" (liquid for the space between the interior and exterior kettles) Gycerin (glycerin). The glycerin avoided the burning of the meal.

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by Leo Niehorster » 19 Feb 2017, 11:30

Outsanding post(s), Bert. Thank you.

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by Sturm78 » 19 Feb 2017, 20:34

Thank you very much for your informations, Bert....very useful... :wink:

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by RandJS » 19 Feb 2017, 21:26

Hi Bert,

Thank you again for these wonderfully detailed posts! :thumbsup:

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Rand

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 07 Mar 2017, 00:50

SIS 5 wrote:Hi Rand,

now I can tell You something about the differences between Hf. 11 and Hf. 13.
Let´s begin with the rear view. Here apic of both types. On the left the Hf. 11. You can notice a difference between the catches of the fireplaces on the left and in the middle down, also the catch on the right at the top. And there is a difference between the flap in front of the pot. The Hf. 11 had two rows with nine holes, Hf. 13 two rows with 14 holes.
Part two will follow.

Regards

Bert
Hi Bert and Rand,
Thanks very much for your clear and detailed presentation in this thread, Bert. I was lucky enough to grab several screenshots from Adrian's site before it went dark pertaining to the same topic, in this case variants of the Hf. 11. The right hand column appears to pertain to the Hf. 13 as well as an updated Hf. 11. Further food for thought...
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Max

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Re: Hf.11/Hf.13 Field kitchen question

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Post by RandJS » 07 Mar 2017, 03:19

Hi Max,
During the beginning of my quest for information regarding the Hf.11/Hf. 13, I found many links to panzerarmee.com. Unfortunately too late! Thanks for sharing this extra morsel.

Cheers,
Rand

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