352. Division June 1944

[yantaylor]

Well Alan I admit defeat, I cannot find zilch on those 2cm armed Sd.Kfz. 250s, apart from that link anyway, I tried to access the Bundesarchiv but getting into the place is like getting into the Bank of England.

Yan.

[yantaylor]

After much searching, I have come to this set up, in which the three Sd.Kfz 250/8s were replaced by six Sd.Kfz 250 mit 2cm KwK 38 [cannot find another term for them].

3. Kompanie [21 x Sd.Kfz 250/1s - 3 x Sd.Kfz 250/10s - 6 x Sd.Kfz 250 mit 2cm KwK 38 - 2 x Sd.Kfz 250/7s - 2 x Sd.Kfz 250/3s]
4. Kompanie [21 x Sd.Kfz 250/1s - 3 x Sd.Kfz 251/10s - 6 x Sd.Kfz 250 mit 2cm KwK 38 - 2 x Sd.Kfz 250/7s - 2 x Sd.Kfz 250/3s]

Yan.

[Alanmccoubrey]

Didn't you start off with each company having 7 x SdKfz 251, you seem to have lost track of them. How about turning the SdKfz 250/10 into SdKfz 251/10 and the SdKfz 250/7 into SdKfz 251/2, that would leave you with two "spare" SdKfz 251 but the same number of vehicles as you started with. While the KStN doesn't call for any SdKfz 251 if that was what they had they had to use them.

[yantaylor]

How about this Alan;

21. Panzer Aufklärungs Abteilung:
Commander: Major Waldow
1. Kompanie [9 x SdKfz 250/3 - 16 x SdKfz 250/9]
2. Kompanie [6 x Sd.Kfz 233s - 8 x Sd.Kfz 232s - 6 x Sd.Kfz 221s + 3 x Sd.Kfz 221s mit 2.8cm]
3. Kompanie [21 x Sd.Kfz 250/1s - 3 x Sd.Kfz 251/10s - 6 x Sd.Kfz 250 mit 2cm KwK 38s - 2 x Sd.Kfz 251/2s - 2 x Sd.Kfz 250/3s]
4. Kompanie [21 x Sd.Kfz 250/1s - 3 x Sd.Kfz 251/10s - 6 x Sd.Kfz 250 mit 2cm KwK 38s - 2 x Sd.Kfz 251/2s - 2 x Sd.Kfz 250/3s]
5. Schwere Kompanie [1 x Sd.Kfz 251/10 - 2 x Sd.Kfz 251/16s - 6 x Sd.Kfz 251/9s - 3 x Motorized 7.5cm PaK 40s - 2 x Motorized 7.5cm leIG 18s]

Yan.

[yantaylor]

Did the German 243. Infantry division see any action on the cotentin peninsula on 6th June? I have read that they were stationed on the west side of the peninsula but they did have some motorized units and were these sent into action against the US 82ND AND 101ST?

Yan.

[jpz4]

Some stray paratroopers/gliderborne troops but that's all. Theír operations started the next day.

[yantaylor]

Thanks Jpz, I was trying to find out just how much action the 243 and 711 saw on June 6th.

Yan.

[yantaylor]

I see the 243rd ID did have some attached units, with the 206th Pz Abt. and a machine gun company [17th].
Was the 206th organized along the same lines as the 100th Pz Abt?
And was the 17th MG Kp organized along standard lines?

Yan.

[jpz4]

It was a battalion, not an MG-Kp. Three companies with 12 s.MG each. Pz.Abt.206 was organized very differently from Pz.Ers.u.Ausb.Abt.100.
Martin Block has explained its organization here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1165343863 (scroll down, and sorry about the lack of photos but that's Photobucket's fault).

May I recommend you get yourself a copy of Zetterling's: 'Normandy 1944: German Military Organization, Combat Power and Organizational Effectiveness' It is more expensive now it is out of print, but still worth the $75 you can get a copy for.

[yantaylor]

Excellent Jpz.
BTW: I will check out that book!

Thank you
Yan.

[yantaylor]

The Pz. Abt. 206 is a bit confusing as the first dates have three companies along the same lines as Pz.Ers.u.Ausb.Abt.100. with two infantry companies and a single panzer company.
Another thing is the Pz. Mk. IIIs, they are in the early data but vanish along with the infantry component in the last dated stuff.

Yan.

[yantaylor]

I would guess that the twelve s.MG machine guns in the machine gun battalion 17 are LMGs and not MP40s.

Yan.

[Richard Anderson]

I would guess that the twelve s.MG machine guns in the machine gun battalion 17 are LMGs and not MP40s.

Yan.

s.MG - schwere Machinengewehr...i.e., Heavy Machine Gun.

[jpz4]

The Pz. Abt. 206 is a bit confusing as the first dates have three companies along the same lines as Pz.Ers.u.Ausb.Abt.100. with two infantry companies and a single panzer company.
Another thing is the Pz. Mk. IIIs, they are in the early data but vanish along with the infantry component in the last dated stuff.

Read the link I posted again. None of what you're writing is correct.

[Alanmccoubrey]

Yan, where are you getting the information for all these questions, Wiki ?