Puma MG

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Puma MG

Post by Brady » 14 May 2019 01:37

I had assumed that the Wiki article on the Puma had a typo in it, and then I checked a couple of my Print references and the 234 family used a MG 42 coaxial in the 234/1 and the Puma ?

Further looking shows conflicting references, some say the MG 34 some say the MG 42, I had thought the designee of the MG 42 precluded it being used coaxially ?

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Re: Puma MG

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 14 May 2019 09:15

According to Ellis and Chamberlain in "Encyclodedia German Tanks of WW2" and John Milsom in "German Armoured Cars of WW2" plus a great many photographs they had the MG 42 as their co-ax.
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Re: Puma MG

Post by Brady » 14 May 2019 14:45

The 234/1,3 & 4 all show the MG 42 as the MG and there is photographic evidence to support this, however there are also references indicating that the 234/2 used the MG 34, I have not seen any photographs of the interior of the pumas turret showing the coaxial mount

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Re: Puma MG

Post by Denniss » 14 May 2019 15:39

234/2, not Puma.
As the first produced variant with a turret taken from a cancelled tank project it's indeed possible it had a Coax MG34.

AFAIR if a Bow/Coax MG had to fire through armor plate of certain thickness it was a MG 34 variant

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Re: Puma MG

Post by Einhert » 16 Jul 2019 10:54

The MG 34 barrel was changed from the rear, the 42 from the side. Coax and hull mg always 34s for that reason

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Re: Puma MG

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 16 Jul 2019 20:32

Einhert wrote:
16 Jul 2019 10:54
The MG 34 barrel was changed from the rear, the 42 from the side. Coax and hull mg always 34s for that reason
That appears to be a spurious argument, tank MGs were 34s because the 42 didn't exist when most of the tanks were designed. A tank would rarely need to change an mg barrel in action, if ever at all, did they even carry spare barrels , that's something I've never thought about.
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Re: Puma MG

Post by Yoozername » 23 Jul 2019 00:18

This kit claims a mitt for barrel changes.

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/deact ... _2372.html

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Re: Puma MG

Post by Denniss » 23 Jul 2019 23:03

Was there an armored barrel version of the MG42? I don't think so.
The MG 34 was kept in production for exact this reason - tank/armored vehicle mounts.
open top turrets may have used the MG 42, depending on the mounting location and option for barrel change.

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