VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

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VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

Post by aurelien wolff » 24 Jun 2019 07:29

Sometimes I see the daimler benz submission for the panther name Vk3001(DB) but my source say it's name VK3002(DB):
viewtopic.php?t=197766
viewtopic.php?t=222707
wich one?
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Re: VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

Post by Richard Anderson » 24 Jun 2019 17:05

aurelien wolff wrote:
24 Jun 2019 07:29
Sometimes I see the daimler benz submission for the panther name Vk3001(DB) but my source say it's name VK3002(DB):
viewtopic.php?t=197766
viewtopic.php?t=222707
wich one?
There was no VK 30.02(D). The development program dead-ended with the VK 30.01(D). The VK 30.02 was a MAN design and so was (M).
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Re: VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

Post by aurelien wolff » 24 Jun 2019 20:26

any source regarding that statement? wasn't that tank proposed by daimler-benz for the panther programm?

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Re: VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

Post by Richard Anderson » 25 Jun 2019 04:28

aurelien wolff wrote:
24 Jun 2019 20:26
any source regarding that statement? wasn't that tank proposed by daimler-benz for the panther programm?
Thomas L. Jentz and Hilary Louis Doyle, Germany's Panther Tank: The Quest for Combat Supremacy, (Atglen, PA: Schiffer Military Publishing, 1995), pp. 14-18. No, the tank proposed by Daimler-Benz for the 30-ton class tank under the "Panther" nomenclature on 2 March 1942 as the VK 30.02 (D) was simply the VK 30.01 (D), insofar as I know there was no real change in the design.
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Re: VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

Post by aurelien wolff » 25 Jun 2019 08:28

so there was a vk3002(DB) from what I understand right? (I'm still "sleeping" so I could misunderstand).

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Re: VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

Post by aurelien wolff » 25 Jun 2019 12:23

Richard Anderson wrote:
25 Jun 2019 04:28
aurelien wolff wrote:
24 Jun 2019 20:26
any source regarding that statement? wasn't that tank proposed by daimler-benz for the panther programm?
Thomas L. Jentz and Hilary Louis Doyle, Germany's Panther Tank: The Quest for Combat Supremacy, (Atglen, PA: Schiffer Military Publishing, 1995), pp. 14-18. No, the tank proposed by Daimler-Benz for the 30-ton class tank under the "Panther" nomenclature on 2 March 1942 as the VK 30.02 (D) was simply the VK 30.01 (D), insofar as I know there was no real change in the design.
wich one? the one from 2012 or another one? Because in the 2012 variant no name are given in the page concerning the daimler benz design (24-29).

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Re: VK3001(DB) or vK3002(DB)?

Post by aurelien wolff » 25 Jun 2019 12:53

I see now that I have the book

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