Bad day for the Panthers.

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Tom from Cornwall
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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 04 Nov 2019 18:17

Hi,

I thought this might be of interest:

http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/a- ... nel.81483/

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Tom

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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Mobius » 04 Nov 2019 18:55

Tom from Cornwall wrote:
04 Nov 2019 18:17
Hi,
I thought this might be of interest:
http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/a- ... nel.81483/
Regards
Tom
Another Tiger inside Fontenoy le Pesnel that is not mentioned anywhere before? That author mentions British, Irish and French sources, but no German.

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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Michael Kenny » 04 Nov 2019 19:21

Mobius wrote:
04 Nov 2019 18:55
Tom from Cornwall wrote:
04 Nov 2019 18:17
Hi,
I thought this might be of interest:
http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/a- ... nel.81483/
Regards
Tom
Another Tiger inside Fontenoy le Pesnel that is not mentioned anywhere before? That author mentions British, Irish and French sources, but no German.
There is no new 'evidence' . In one of the Panzerwrecks book a simply error had been made (many French villages have similar names) and a Tiger described as being in Fontenay le Marmion is actually in Fontenay le Pesnil. That is it. No more no less.
It is the subject of an upcoming French Normandie 1944 mag
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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 19 Jan 2020 12:25

Further to the losses sustained by German tank formations during Ops by 49 Inf Div at this point in the Normandy campaign, I thought this snip might be of interest from the war diary of 49 Recce Regt (WO171/506):

27 Jun - Panthers.PNG

The diary goes on to report that the "tks and PW identified as of 4/3 Pz Regt of 2 Pz Div".

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Tom
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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Michael Kenny » 19 Jan 2020 17:31

That location is the middle of an open field. Shown circled in this 1947 air view.
Rauray Panthers location on 1947 air view n.jpg
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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 20 Jan 2020 19:28

Hi Michael,

It's been a long time since I was a boy scout and did map reading, but I make it the next grid square up where there are orchards shown in contemporary British maps, eg
Map - 49 Recce Regt - 9895664 - 3 x Panther claim - orchards - marked up.png
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Tom
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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Michael Kenny » 21 Jan 2020 02:38

My mistake I used square 65 instead of 66. As is normally the case this area is just off the edge of a 1945 detailed view of these orchards.
Screenshot_69.jrpg.jpg
and the wartime view was taken 3 days before on June 24th
400-0283 (3106).jpg
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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 21 Jan 2020 20:25

Thanks for posting those photos. At least we have restored the reputation of 49th Recce Regt's map-reading skills!

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Tom

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Re: Bad day for the Panthers.

Post by Michael Kenny » 22 Jan 2020 06:56

Tom from Cornwall wrote:
21 Jan 2020 20:25
At least we have restored the reputation of 49th Recce Regt's map-reading skills!

Better than Worthington's?

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