Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

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Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Miles Krogfus » 20 Jan 2020 05:00

Here are the III Panzer Korps ammo consumption figures and some results July 1-10,1943. For example, the 503 Tiger Abt. consumed 1231 HE and 863 APBC rounds. 88 mm. Flak units consumed 15 APBC rounds.
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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by EugE » 20 Jan 2020 06:08

Hi!
Thank you.
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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Yoozername » 20 Jan 2020 17:14

Amazing. They fired off about a months worth of typical consumption in a little over a week. Or actually, less than a week. I suppose it also depends on what units were in the III Pz. Kps. throughout the time period?

Gotta hand it to the Germans. They are fastidious about the numbers!

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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by EugE » 21 Jan 2020 06:44

Yoozername wrote:
20 Jan 2020 17:14
what units were in the III Pz. Kps. throughout the time period?
6 PzD, 7 PzD, 19 PzD + s.PzAbt 503
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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Yoozername » 23 Jan 2020 23:01

EugE wrote:
21 Jan 2020 06:44
Yoozername wrote:
20 Jan 2020 17:14
what units were in the III Pz. Kps. throughout the time period?
6 PzD, 7 PzD, 19 PzD + s.PzAbt 503
Also 168th ID?

I imagine they had some other assigned artillery perhaps? Who used those French 155mm guns?

It is interesting the amount of high explosive the antitank guns and other weapons used. Certain ammunition, like Pngr 40 seems to have not been used that much. They even break it out by fuzing in some cases.

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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Miles Krogfus » 26 Jan 2020 09:46

6th Panzer Division equipment data during Operation Citadel:
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Post by Miles Krogfus » 26 Jan 2020 10:15

7th Panzer Division:
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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Miles Krogfus » 26 Jan 2020 10:31

19th Panzer Division:
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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Miles Krogfus » 26 Jan 2020 11:17

In the III Panzer Korps:
503 s.Pz.Abt. had 45 Tigers in 3 companies, one each with 14 Tigers for the 6th, 7th and 19th Panzer Divisions.
On July 9th there were 33 combat fit Tigers, on the 10th 14 were combat fit and 23 fit on July 11th.
The 228 Sturmgeschutz Abt. had 31 AG. July 9th 23 were combat fit, 11 on the 10th and 19 were combat fit on the 11th.

6th Panzer Division: July 9 with 67 panzers combat fit, July 10 with 22 combat fit and July 12 with 12 combat fit.
7th Panzer Division: July 9 with 36 panzers fit, July 10 with 43 fit, July 11 with 50 combat fit and July 12 with 36 fit.
19th Panzer Division: July 9 with 35 panzers combat fit, July 10 with 12 fit, July 11 with 14 fit and July 12 with 11 fit.

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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Miles Krogfus » 11 Mar 2020 09:04

Here is the III Pz. Korps ammo consumption July 11-22,1943. The 503 Tiger Abt. expended 1665 HE and 1907 APBC rounds.
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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Art » 12 Mar 2020 20:48

According to KOSAVE tables the III PzK and its three divisions consumed about 4700 short tons or 4260 metric tons of ammunition on 4-10 July. Consumption on the first three days of July must be very small. Some difference might result from inclusion of 150-mm Nebelwerfers.

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Re: Kursk III Pz. Kps. ammo consumption/results

Post by Richard Anderson » 12 Mar 2020 23:48

Art wrote:
12 Mar 2020 20:48
According to KOSAVE tables the III PzK and its three divisions consumed about 4700 short tons or 4260 metric tons of ammunition on 4-10 July. Consumption on the first three days of July must be very small. Some difference might result from inclusion of 150-mm Nebelwerfers.
IIRC we also did not include the weight of small arms ammunition.
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