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Semovente da 75-18

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Mar 2020 09:43

Hi all,

Does somebody how is possible differenciate between a Semovente M41 and a M42 models ??

According to my information and the images that I have seen:

M40: short front fenders
M41: full length fenders
M42: ?? :?

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Mar 2020 13:10

Nobody ?

Well, I found this image on the net. I am not sure about the exact model of Semovente.
Note the peculiard berets of the soldiers...Any idea about this ?

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 17 Mar 2020 15:31

Beret might be that of the “black brigades”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Brigades

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Contender » 17 Mar 2020 19:46

Sturm78 wrote:
17 Mar 2020 13:10
Nobody ?
Unfortunately everything I have on glorious Italian AFV's, groups the Semoventes together and does not go into changes..... :x
Looking through pictures it appears that they changed up the drive wheel with the m42:
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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 17 Mar 2020 19:51

Sturm78 wrote:
17 Mar 2020 13:10
Nobody ?

Well, I found this image on the net. I am not sure about the exact model of Semovente.
Note the peculiard berets of the soldiers...Any idea about this ?

Sturm78
That looks like a Semovents da 75/32 (M41).
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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Mar 2020 20:20

Waleed wrote
Beret might be that of the “black brigades”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Brigades
Thanks for your help, Waleed... :)
Contender wrote
Looking through pictures it appears that they changed up the drive wheel with the m42:
Thank you, Contender...perhaps these drive wheels with protuberant teeths are characteristics of the M42 model, but it is starnge that this new drive wheels don`t appear in later M43 chassis.... :?

You image is a Semovente da 75-34.
Was the Semovente da 75-34 built on M41 chassis or were they all made with M42 chassis?

Another characteristic that appear in a few vehicles is the device marked inside red circle....Any idea ?

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Denniss » 17 Mar 2020 22:33

Smv 75/34 was built on M15/42 chassis as were late models of the Smv 75/18. Only 75/34 prototypes used M13/41 chassis

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Mar 2020 11:06

Hi all,

Well, in that case the drive wheel with the protruding teeth cannot be a distinctive feature of the M42 since I have seen images of the Semovente 75-34 with those protruding teeth and also without them....

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Denniss » 20 Mar 2020 14:26

It's always dangerous to use interchangable parts to identify a specific version. It doesn't work on german tanks either.

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by T. A. Gardner » 20 Mar 2020 16:54

Sturm78 wrote:
17 Mar 2020 20:20
Waleed wrote
Beret might be that of the “black brigades”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Brigades
Thanks for your help, Waleed... :)
Contender wrote
Looking through pictures it appears that they changed up the drive wheel with the m42:
Thank you, Contender...perhaps these drive wheels with protuberant teeths are characteristics of the M42 model, but it is starnge that this new drive wheels don`t appear in later M43 chassis.... :?

You image is a Semovente da 75-34.
Was the Semovente da 75-34 built on M41 chassis or were they all made with M42 chassis?

Another characteristic that appear in a few vehicles is the device marked inside red circle....Any idea ?

Sturm78
I suspect-- suspect-- that it is a bottle jack of one sort or another for jacking the vehicle up for repairs.

Image

They all look something like that.

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Re: Semovente da 75-18

Post by Sturm78 » 22 Mar 2020 11:52

T. A. Gardner wrote
I suspect-- suspect-- that it is a bottle jack of one sort or another for jacking the vehicle up for repairs.
Thanks, T. A. Gardner. I think probably you are right

I think that jwsleser member have found the definitive aswer. See viewtopic.php?f=75&t=247417&p=2257697#p2257697

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