Panther with a Panzer IV turret

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Panther with a Panzer IV turret

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Post by tracks031 » 09 Oct 2020, 22:28

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Why does this Panther have a Panzer IV turret? Could it rotate on the Panther's larger turret ring?

As you can see we can also see the only turreted "Porsche-Tiger" that was used with Schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung 653.

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Re: Panther with a Panzer IV turret

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Post by Richard Anderson » 10 Oct 2020, 02:59

Looks like a pretty poorly done Photoshop...
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Re: Panther with a Panzer IV turret

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Re: Panther with a Panzer IV turret

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Post by tracks031 » 10 Oct 2020, 03:57

Michael Kenny wrote:
10 Oct 2020, 03:19
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Thank you! :thumbsup:

So it was a Bergepanther with a Panzer IV turret bolted on top.

A reply on War Thunder's history forum that may or may not be correct:

"Well it was not actually a functioning tank. The Panzer V/IV was actually a field modification made by Schwere Panzerjager Albt 653 (Or was it 356) whereby a Bergepanther had a Panzer IV's turret bolted on to it to act as a roof and provide more stowage space. The turret could not rotate and to this day there is still no evidence that the gun was active."

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Re: Panther with a Panzer IV turret

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Post by otis123 » 31 Aug 2022, 06:49

tracks031 wrote:
09 Oct 2020, 22:28
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Why does this Panther have a Panzer IV turret? Could it rotate on the Panther's larger turret ring? among us framed game

As you can see we can also see the only turreted "Porsche-Tiger" that was used with Schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung 653.
The Panther turret could rotate 360 degrees and was a huge improvement over the previous design. It also featured better armor protection. However, if a Panther was caught in an ambush that disabled its turret, it was now defenseless against enemy fire.

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Post by otis123 » 31 Aug 2022, 06:50

Michael Kenny wrote:
10 Oct 2020, 03:19
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thank you it's great

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Re: Panther with a Panzer IV turret

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Post by ThatZenoGuy » 01 Sep 2022, 08:42

I wonder if the gun in the turret was functional or not. Usually command tanks have fake-barrels as there is no need to use the real thing.

I am assuming that the breech mechanism of this tank was removed, but they kept the barrel/mantlet to look the part.

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