Toldi tank production

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Toldi tank production

Post by Jay Felsberg » 20 Oct 2003 03:04

Does anyone have at least an approximate number of Toldi tanks and tank destroyers built? TIA

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Post by David C. Clarke » 20 Oct 2003 04:13

From AFV News, Vol. 21, No. 3 "Toldi, A Brave Litle Warrior" by Giuseppe Finizio, I have an aproximate figure of :
Toldi I-II: 190
(number plates H-301 to H-380 and number plates H-381 to H-490)
Toldi III: 12 (Number plates H-491 to H-502) and, possibly a further 30 asssembled from spare parts (H-503/533)
The Toldi IIa, the nine armored ambulances and the tank hunter on the Toldi chassis were all modifications of existing vehicles, nt new production. This article only covers the vehicles inservice with the Honved, I believe. Hope it helps.

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thanks

Post by Jay Felsberg » 20 Oct 2003 06:32

helps a lot thanks david!!!!!

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Post by Orok » 20 Oct 2003 16:09

David C. Clarke wrote:From AFV News, Vol. 21, No. 3 "Toldi, A Brave Litle Warrior" by Giuseppe Finizio, I have an aproximate figure of :
Toldi I-II: 190
(number plates H-301 to H-380 and number plates H-381 to H-490)
Toldi III: 12 (Number plates H-491 to H-502) and, possibly a further 30 asssembled from spare parts (H-503/533)
The Toldi IIa, the nine armored ambulances and the tank hunter on the Toldi chassis were all modifications of existing vehicles, nt new production. This article only covers the vehicles inservice with the Honved, I believe. Hope it helps.

Best Regards,
~D, the EviL


David,

Thank you for your excellent information.

Do you have any information on the plate numbers of Hungarian PzKpfw 38(t) tanks? Or can you direct me to a source which has this infromation?

Thanks and Best Regards!

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Post by David C. Clarke » 21 Oct 2003 00:51

Hi Orok
From AFV News, Vol.21, No. 2, Hungarian Armor registration System by John Baumann, page 4:

"In all a total of 111 38s (a few Model F, but mostly Model Gs) were purchased with registration plates from 1HU725 onwards to 832 for the standard tanks (108) and 1 HU876-78 for the three command tanks."

I hope this helps.
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Post by Orok » 21 Oct 2003 03:14

Thanks David,

I really owe you a HUGE favor for this! :lol: :lol: :lol:

If the same article mentions the 22 PzKpfw IV F1s, please also give me their plate numbers. When I finished the 2 38(t)s (one Italeri, one Maquette) at hand, I'll do a Tamiya PzKpfw IV F1 for the 6th Heavy Company, 30/II Battalion, 30 Tank Regiment of the Hungarian 1. Field Armored Division in Russian in 1942.

Thank you again for your help! :lol:

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Post by David C. Clarke » 21 Oct 2003 03:34

Same article Orok,

"In May 1942 22 Panzer IVs were supplied (Model D and F1s)Known registrations are: 1HU833-854. ...In September 1942 a further 8 Panzer IVs (Model F2s were delivered, (from 10) this continued the run from 1HU855 to 862."

(Note that I copied the last sentence exactly as it appears in the article)

I hope this helps Orok.
Best Regards, David

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Post by Orok » 21 Oct 2003 14:30

Thank you very much David,

This is more than I've expected! :lol:

This forum is great for serious modelers and people like you are so resourceful and nice! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I simply love to be here!

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Post by David C. Clarke » 21 Oct 2003 17:50

No problem Orok, I sort of collected information on Honved armored vehicles after I sprang for an expensive resin kit of the Zrinyi.

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Post by Orok » 30 Oct 2003 19:15

Is it the one from Botond? have you built it?

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Post by David C. Clarke » 31 Oct 2003 03:14

Hi Orok, no the model is from Commander Series in the U.S. I think it compares well with the Botond kit, but the hull and superstructure are solid while the running gear is white metal.
Zrinyi is a fascinating vehicle.

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Post by David C. Clarke » 31 Oct 2003 03:17

Here's a picture of the completed kit--not my work--from the Iron Shipwright website:

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http://www.commanderseries.com/armor.htm

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Post by Orok » 31 Oct 2003 05:17

Thanks David for the link and picture. I am going to buy one later. I am now focusing on the 1942 Russian campagn of the 2. Magyar Hadsereg. At that time there was still no Zrinyi! :lol:

I personally think the design of Zrinyi was very advanced at its time. It's a shame that the Hungarians did not get better engines and guns for it.

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Post by Orok » 31 Oct 2003 05:28

David,

I couldn't find Zrinyi on the link you gave, only Turans! Did they discontinued the kit?

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Post by David C. Clarke » 31 Oct 2003 16:47

Hi Orok, I believe it is still in production, the company lists it as:
"Sturmgeschutz 40/48M" for whatever reason.

Cheers,
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