Need help with Turan III ...

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Need help with Turan III ...

Post by Mait » 01 Jul 2002 14:51

Hello.

Does anyone got Hungarian Turan III pictures/paintings/blueprints/3d drawings? I have found only three bad quality photographs of the vehicle and I am desperately searching for more.

Also, I read from the TANKS! website about Toldi light tank that "At least one was modified by replacing the turret with a three sided open topped structure that housed a German 75mm PaK40 L/48." Anyone got a picture/drawing/blueprint about this vehicle?

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Post by Marcus » 01 Jul 2002 16:25

Mait,

I don't know if you've already seen these, but here are three from this very site:

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3 photos...

Post by Mait » 01 Jul 2002 16:45

Yep, these are the three pictures I have found. I have searched the net, but I have not found more. That´s why I need help. I know here are some Hungarian history and war fans, so I thought they might have something...

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Re: 3 photos...

Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 01 Jul 2002 21:34

43M Turán (Turán 75 long barrel, or Turán III)

Prototype 1:
Mass of battle: 23300 kg
Number of person: 5
Max. length: 6860 mm
Max. flightiness: 2440 mm
Height: 2650 mm
Stomach height: 380 mm
Track: 2020 mm
Caterpillar flightiness: 420 mm
Specific land pressure: 0.80 kp/cm2
Motor: Weiss Manfréd V-8H, 4 rate, 8 cylinder, benzine
Cylinder capacity: 14866 cm3
Performance: 260 horsepower
Specific performance: 11.2 h.p./t
Max. speed on road: 47 km/h
Go slope ability: 45 degree
Go upstairs ability: 0.80 m
Shallows ability: 0.90 m
Trench bridge ability: 2.20 m
Range on road: 130 km
Fuel permission: 265 liter
Number of speed: 6 forward, 6 reverse
Armour: 13-90 mm
Guns / ammo grant:
1 piece 43M 75 mm cannon / 32 piece
2 piece 34/40A M 8 mm machinegun / 1800 piece

Prototype 2:
Mass of battle: 22000 kg
Number of person: 4
Max. length: 6860 mm
Max. flightiness: 2440 mm
Height: 2250 mm
Stomach height: 380 mm
Track: 2020 mm
Caterpillar flightiness: 420 mm
Specific land pressure: 0.76 kp/cm2
Motor: Weiss Manfréd V-8H, 4 rate, 8 cylinder, benzine
Cylinder capacity: 14866 cm3
Performance: 260 horsepower
Specific performance: 11.8 h.p./t
Max. speed on road: 47 km/h
Go slope ability: 45 degree
Go upstairs ability: 0.80 m
Shallows ability: 0.90 m
Trench bridge ability: 2.20 m
Range on road: 130 km
Fuel permission: 265 liter
Number of speed: 6 forward, 6 reverse
Armour: 13-90 mm
Guns / ammo grant:
1 piece 43M 75 mm cannon / 52 piece
2 piece 34/40A M 8 mm machinegun / 3000 piece

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Post by Mait » 01 Jul 2002 22:23

Do You know why the back part of the turret was SO high?

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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 02 Jul 2002 22:08

Mait wrote:Do You know why the back part of the turret was SO high?


Because the tank's new cannon was too heavy, and it must compensate.

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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 02 Jul 2002 22:14

Did you know, the same cannon plan was in 44M Tas tank, and 88mm Tiger B cannon plan was the Tas assault gun. But it was only plan. The prototypes were destroyed in 27 july 1944 for bomb attack.

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About TAS

Post by Mait » 02 Jul 2002 22:42

Yes I have read a little about TAS. I understand that the chassis of this new design was purely Hungarian design.

But do You have any information or pictures about the Toldi tank-destroyer?

And finally, thanks for all the good information:)

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Re: About TAS

Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 02 Jul 2002 23:10

Toldi tank-destroyer (or antitank)

Max. flightiness: 2140 mm
Height: 1872 mm
Stomach height: 350 mm
Track: 2066 mm
Caterpillar flightiness: 286 mm
Motor: Büssing NAG Type L8V/36TR, 4 rate, 8 cylinder, benzine
Cylinder capacity: 7913 cm3
Performance: 155 horsepower
Max. speed on road: 50 km/h
Go slope ability: 40 degree
Go upstairs ability: 0.60 m
Shallows ability: 0.70 m
Trench bridge ability: 1.75 m
Range on road: 200 km
Fuel permission: 253 liter
Number of speed: 5 forward, 1 reverse
Armour: 5-13 mm
Guns / ammo grant: 1 piece 75 mm antitank gun
Radio: R-5

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Post by Mait » 02 Jul 2002 23:58

If You have graphics or pictures about TAS tank and assault gun could You post them?

By the way, have You ever considered building a web-site about Hungarian weapons of WW2? I mean You are well equipped with pictures and data and there seems to be no good sites about it :)

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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 03 Jul 2002 00:52

Mait wrote:If You have graphics or pictures about TAS tank and assault gun could You post them?

By the way, have You ever considered building a web-site about Hungarian weapons of WW2? I mean You are well equipped with pictures and data and there seems to be no good sites about it :)


Yes, I want make a document file with picture and I send it lot of people, but now no more time.

The Tas picture is company model.
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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 03 Jul 2002 01:00

Tas assault gun.
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Nimrod

Post by Mait » 03 Jul 2002 03:31

Do You happen to have such 3 view graphic image of Nimrod also?

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Nimrod

Post by Mait » 03 Jul 2002 03:31

Do You happen to have such 3 view graphic image of Nimrod also?

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Re: Nimrod

Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 03 Jul 2002 21:39

Mait wrote:Do You happen to have such 3 view graphic image of Nimrod also?


I have It.

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