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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by John Hilly » 21 Feb 2023, 15:37

Maxschnauzer wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 22:41
Hi Bert,
Yes! That's it! Great ID. Thanks very much, I never would have guessed that one. Looking back through my photo archives I found this one which looks similar in Finnish Army service. Front view though, hard to tell. What do you think?
Yes, this is same type.
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Post by SIS 5 » 21 Feb 2023, 17:44

Hi Max,

You are right, that the vehicle of the Finnish army You posted looks like similar. I could find two more pics of such vehicles with a combination of bus and truck, but with special superstructures and without woodgas generators.

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Bert
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 21 Feb 2023, 22:10

John Hilly wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 15:37
Maxschnauzer wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 22:41
Hi Bert,
Yes! That's it! Great ID. Thanks very much, I never would have guessed that one. Looking back through my photo archives I found this one which looks similar in Finnish Army service. Front view though, hard to tell. What do you think?
Yes, this is same type.
Thank you, John.
Cheers,
Max

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 21 Feb 2023, 22:16

Hi Bert and John,
Thanks very much for the additional photos, Bert. Fascinating vehicle.
I found this on the internet, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruck_%28vehicle%29:
A bruck (blended from the words bus and truck) is a type of bus or coach built to combine goods and passenger transport where it is most profitable or most convenient compared to separate vehicles. The word bruck was used in North America. In Australia they were known as passenger-freighters. In Europe they are known as Kombinationsbus (German), seka-auto (Finnish), kombibuss (Norwegian) and godsbuss (Swedish), with even the nickname skvader.
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Max

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Robturner » 22 Feb 2023, 18:27

Hello all.
Further to the bus/truck combination, I googled the word 'skvader' and came up with this curious hare/grouse creation - a manufactured hybrid or chimera.
Best wishes, Rob.
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Post by Robturner » 22 Feb 2023, 22:27

There is some information on seka-auto vehicles manufactured in Finland by Kutter Oy on the website www.elka.fi Sixteen scale drawings are included. These show differing designs of bodywork on various chassis, including Citroën, Studebaker and Rolls Royce.
An interesting topic!
Rob.
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 23 Feb 2023, 05:22

Hi Rob,
Thanks for the link. Maybe you can give me a hint on how to navigate to the topic, I'm getting nowhere. BTW as you probably know, skavders do exist but they have taken on a different form these days: 8O :D
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I have also attempted to enhance your Sisu drawing to make it a bit more legible:
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Cheers,
Max

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Post by Robturner » 23 Feb 2023, 08:08

Hello Max.
To get to the website, Google seka-auto and click on images. Scroll down until you come upon the dull grey drawing seen here in the top left. Click on that and you're on the appropriate page of the website with the written description above the scale drawings.
I hope that that makes sense!
Regards, Rob
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 23 Feb 2023, 10:44

Thanks Rob,
That works.
Cheers,
Max

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Post by SIS 5 » 24 Feb 2023, 10:49

Hi Max, hi Rob,

thank You very much for these informations and links. I could find another "bruck" in Finland, a Ford 81 (1938). It was used for the transport of people and goods from 1942. It was restored in the last time in a phantastic way. If You are interested , have a look on this site:
https://www.radiopooki.fi/ohjelmat/rasvamonttu/a-198937

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Bert
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by uncle » 26 Feb 2023, 19:42

Hello all,
I am a bit puzzled by this right-hand drive ambulance(?). The radiator has the look of a Bedford, with the single central support bar, but the nose looks very short and the radiator appears to be sloped backwards. I know that the print quality is poor, so some of the detail may be distorted. The wheels and tyres look to be of a military type, almost like the balloon style.
Please can anyone help with an id, I have gone down many "rabbit-holes" but, so far, not come up with an id.
Many thanks,
Kerry.

Hi Kerry.
Possibly Fordson E 88W (here is somewhat similar).
But radiator grille Bedford ? (maybe field conversion).
I hope I could help You a little bit.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Feb 2023, 23:34

Hi all,

Is this a standard Mercedes-Bnez LG3000 truck ?
I think the wheel rims not match.... :?

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 01 Mar 2023, 10:20

Hi Sturm,
If it's not an LG 3000 it's a damn good copy, right down to the the bonnet flaps. I can't explain the rims either. :?
Cheers,
Max

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by kerryboo » 01 Mar 2023, 12:33

Hi Uncle,
Thank you for taking the time to research and reply.
I did consider the Fordson, but it was the radiator which threw me. To be honest I had curiously ignored the fact that vehicles could, and would, be locally repaired to keep them on the road. It is very possible that a Bedford radiator was used to replace a damaged Fordson one. Unless, over time, I come across anything similar, I will archive as a Fordson E88W with one or two others.
Once again, many thanks uncle.
Cheers,
Kerry.
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Post by SIS 5 » 03 Mar 2023, 17:28

Hi Sturm 78, hi Max,

a very interesting pic and question!
It is a normal LG 3000, but with unusual wheel rims, that´s right. The front wheel rim is a stopgap solution I think, because the spare wheels were already used. So they took a rim from another truck and made some holes into it with not regular distances. The rear wheel rims could be the rims of the Opel Blitz. This vehicle of a later version had the same size of tire (7,25 - 20) and rim (6'' - 20) with eight nuts/bolts and eight holes like on this pic.

Best regards

Bert.
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