Vehicle identity requests

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 04 Sep 2009 11:35

der Fleißige wrote:Number 2: Mercedes-Benz 320WK (WK = Wehrmacht Kübelwagen) W142 III (Again! :D )
Yes...again...and I have many more of them! :D

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 04 Sep 2009 11:39

barbarossa28 wrote:Hello Henning.

1: le. gl. Einheits-Pkw
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... s-pkw.html

2: Mercedes-Benz type 320 WK
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 20_wk.html

3: Most probably a very rare Horch type 830 BL Kübelwagen. This was converted from the civilian model and had some differences to the Horch 830 R Kübelwagen.
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... wagen.html

Regards, Holger.
Horch type 830 BL Kübelwagen - it would be great if this is the answer!

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 04 Sep 2009 11:40

And by the way...thanks for your effort, guys! Image

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 04 Sep 2009 11:47

Hi Henning,

to Your trailer. It´s a so called Öltank- und Kühlmittelwärmewagen of the Luftwaffe (Fl 65851).

I´ll post a pic and a drawing of such a trailer (source: Waffen-Arsenal Sonderband S - 19: Fahrzeuge und Geräte auf Flugplätzen der deutschen Luftwaffe" by Joachim Dressel and Manfred Griehl.

Regards

Bert
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by fireindi64 » 04 Sep 2009 12:08

SIS 5 wrote:Hi Henning,

to Your trailer. It´s a so called Öltank- und Kühlmittelwärmewagen of the Luftwaffe (Fl 65851).

I´ll post a drawing of such a trailer (source: Waffen-Arsenal Sonderband S - 19: Fahrzeuge und Geräte auf Flugplätzen der deutschen Luftwaffe" by Joachim Dressel and Manfred Griehl.

Regards

Bert
Thanks for all Informations

Bert: I dont Know this "waffen-Arsenal" can you tell me if there are Informations about Fire service cars from german air-fields?

Befehl 227: sorry, I never comunicate with specialists like you all here. and my very special background is fire-service and very very special Magirus/ Hansa-Lloyd, Borgward 1937-1945, but I try to understand and collect your answers.

to all, best regards

Henning

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Bill Murray » 04 Sep 2009 13:07

Hello All:

Regarding the Horch Kubelwagen, the last one, were they not also used by the civilian fire and police forces??
I would imagine someone could maybe track down that registration plate which is obviously civilian to determine the original owner(s).

Bill

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 04 Sep 2009 17:18

Hi Henning,

to the information about the fire service vehicles: in the Waffen-Arsenal You can find two numbers of KFZ.:
Kfz. 323 and 343: Tankspritze: mittl. gel. LKW: Krupp L 3 H 163, Opel Blitz 3t, Henschle 33 D 1
Kfz. 345: Löschkraftwagen: l. LKW (o): Opel Blitz 1,5t and Borgward 1t

I scanned two pics of the booklet , one of a Tankkraftspritze, the other of a Loeschwagen.
The text to the pics:
pic 1: Die Flugleitung mit angebautem Hangar in Magdeburg-Süd. Im Vordergrund eine Tankkraftspritze (Kfz. 343) der Platzfeuerwehr.
pic 2: Feuerbekämpfung auf einem Feldflugplatz mittels eines Schaumlöschers, der leicht auch im Mannschaftszug eingesetzt werden konnte.
Maybe it´s interesting for You.

Greetings

Bert
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 04 Sep 2009 18:03

fireindi64 wrote:
SIS 5 wrote:Hi Henning,

to Your trailer. It´s a so called Öltank- und Kühlmittelwärmewagen of the Luftwaffe (Fl 65851).

I´ll post a drawing of such a trailer (source: Waffen-Arsenal Sonderband S - 19: Fahrzeuge und Geräte auf Flugplätzen der deutschen Luftwaffe" by Joachim Dressel and Manfred Griehl.

Regards

Bert
Thanks for all Informations

Bert: I dont Know this "waffen-Arsenal" can you tell me if there are Informations about Fire service cars from german air-fields?

Befehl 227: sorry, I never comunicate with specialists like you all here. and my very special background is fire-service and very very special Magirus/ Hansa-Lloyd, Borgward 1937-1945, but I try to understand and collect your answers.

to all, best regards

Henning
Henning, I´ve sent you "´ne private Nachricht"! :D

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 05 Sep 2009 21:10

4 more to identify! :)

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by fireindi64 » 06 Sep 2009 10:38

Befehl227 wrote:4 more to identify! :)

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Hello Stefan

First I think its exactly a SdAh 13
Source: http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... h__13.html

But there are difference! Early or late version, field modified?
What is the opinion of Leo Niehorster I think he is an expert about Engineer equipement.

regards
Henning

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by barbarossa28 » 07 Sep 2009 11:11

Hello Stefan.

1: Could be an Sd. Ah. 13. But I'm not sure about this.

2:Mercedes-Benz Type 170 VK Kübelwagen

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 70_vk.html

3: Wanderer W 22 Kübelwagen of the RAD

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... wagen.html

4: Wanderer W 11 10/50 PS od 12/60PS. Can't see the typical front fender. From the type of superstructure, I would say it is an 10/50 PS.

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... wagen.html

or

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... wagen.html

Regards,

Holger.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 08 Sep 2009 13:52

Many thanks for your help, Henning & Holger!

I also thought that No.1 could be a (modification of the) Sonderanhänger 13.

Regarding the other 3 vehicles – ein dickes DANKESCHÖN, Holger! Concerning the W 22, now I can even read the Sütterlin (man I hate Sütterlin) text on the backside of the photo: Unser Wanderer, Sommer 1936

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 08 Sep 2009 17:50

Hi all,

can anybody ID the truck with the snow plough on an airfield? Thanks in advance.

Bert
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 08 Sep 2009 18:06

Could be a Skoda, Bert.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by barbarossa28 » 08 Sep 2009 21:00

Hello Bert,

for me it looks more like a Büssing-NAG 550. Also possible is an all wheel driven Büssing-NAG 504. The vehicle has the open Einheitsführerhaus of the Wehrmacht.

Regards, Holger.

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