Vehicle identity requests

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 09 Sep 2009 07:33

Hi Holger,

thank You very much. I thought it could be a Büssing-NAG, but I couldn´t ID the truck. I haven´t seen such a type, yet.
For me it looks a little bit more like the type 504 with the shorter flatbed. And for a snow plough it would be good to have a cross-country version.
Thanks again.

Greetings

Bert

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by fireindi64 » 09 Sep 2009 14:21

Hello
Here is one of my favorites!

The right truck in the background, like my opinion

Hansa-Lloyd/Borgward 2,5t or

Borgward 3t Benzin GW

Whats your meening?
Sourse. carius " WH-Tankers"

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Henning
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 09 Sep 2009 15:58

Befehl227 wrote:Could be a Skoda, Bert.
I was to hasty...I thought it could be a Skoda because of the specific radiator grille.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 09 Sep 2009 16:21

Any idea what this could be?

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Sean N » 09 Sep 2009 19:06

It's a 1920's Renault, but I don't know the model.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 09 Sep 2009 21:41

Hi Henning,

to Your truck. I think like You. It could be a Hansa-Lloyd 2,5t. Maybe it´s the 2ton-truck of Hansa-Lloyd. I don´t think that it is a Borgward 3t G.W. It doesn´t fit. Please compare it with the other trucks. The Hansa-Llloyd-truck is smaller.

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Bert

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Befehl227 » 09 Sep 2009 23:47

Sean N wrote:It's a 1920's Renault, but I don't know the model.
Thank you, Sean! It could be a Reanult 6CV or 10CV.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Bill Murray » 10 Sep 2009 00:53

henning:
I am staying away from the Borgward/Hansa LLoyd vehicles as I always get it wrong.

The tanker is a Matford ex French and maybe civilian. The vehicle behind that is a 1935 Ford possibly French and also civilian. As far as I can tell, the two vehicles behind the Ford are Opel Blitz 3 ton 4X2 vehicles.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by fireindi64 » 10 Sep 2009 05:05

Hi Bill & Bert

Thanks for your opinions.

Bert I think you are right. If the radiator or the hole truck is smaller, i will asked friends wich owns fire-cars on Hansa-Lloyd and borgward.

I think here is the important difference: the hole for the motor-crank. Please compare the pics and zoom the foto-historiker.

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Henning
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by fireindi64 » 10 Sep 2009 07:45

Hello

Any idea of the truck-typs???? I read from a " Operationssaal" on a Furniture- transporter????

And infront a body without windows???

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 13 Sep 2009 18:39

Hi Henning, hi all,

Henning, I´m sorry. I have no idea, what trucks there are on the pic.

Here another pic with a truck I cannot ID. The text to the pic: A clothing detoxification vehicle Sd.Kfz. 93 built on a captured truck chassis (MAC?), Eastern front 1941 - 1942. Source: Samochody Wehrmachtu vol. IV by Janusz Ledwoch.
Thanks in advance.

Bert
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Bill Murray » 13 Sep 2009 19:35

Hi Bert:

If I am correct, you have a rather rare vehicle here in a rather strange place.
I believe it is a Volvo, possibly an LV120 as I have copied here.
Volvo's were sold in the Baltic countries and of course in some numbers in Finland.
If I am correct, it should have come from one of those countries.
Bill
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 14 Sep 2009 16:54

Hi Bill,

thank You very much for ID this really rare vehicle. I thought it could be an American truck, maybe a GMC. You are right, it is a Volvo. In the Finnish book Moottori-Ajoneuvot 1919 - 1959 by Markku Mäkipirtti I have found a pic of a Volvo truck with Finnish soldiers, very similar to the one You posted. The info to the truck is only Volvo, nothing more.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by riffraff » 14 Sep 2009 21:12

This small vehicle is listed in one of Ronald Kaltenegger's book as an "Erlkönig" -- purpose built for mountain troops. It's not a Kfz 1 or Kfz 2 from what I can tell. Looks smaller than a Kubelwagen. The canvas top appears very tall on this very small car. Anyone have a photo of the complete vehicle?

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by peeved » 14 Sep 2009 22:28

According to the discussion at http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:tyf ... clnk&gl=fi the Erlkönig might be
a narrower version of the Stoewer Kfz.4 Light cross-country standard vehicle
cf. vehicle with slightly different ragtop and bodywork at http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/sa/leic ... mmachs.jpg

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