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Post by Maxschnauzer » 11 Jul 2022, 22:52

Hi Sturm,
See posts #2603 & #2606 here; viewtopic.php?f=132&t=44612&start=2595
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Post by Robturner » 13 Jul 2022, 18:30

Hello all.
Whilst blundering about on the internet I came across the enclosed images. They are of relevance to the recent conversation concerning Opel double-cabin lorries.
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 13 Jul 2022, 22:37

Hello Rob,
Many thanks for that, it is quite interesting. At first I thought it was a postwar umbau but the ad http://autos-markt.com/Opel-Blitz-Wehrm ... /lot262981 implies that it was one of 40 DoKa (doppelkabine) Blitzes built by Opel. Second, it is advertised as a 1,5 ton yet to me the bonnet looks like it is a 3 tonner. Thoughts, anyone?
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Post by SIS 5 » 14 Jul 2022, 00:01

Hi Rob,

thanks also from me for posting these interesting pics.

Hi Max,

I´m still thinking like You thought at first, that it is a postwar Umbau. And You are right, it is a 3 tonner. Here an advertisement of the "Opel mit Doppelkabine" for comparing.

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Post by pietvanhees » 14 Jul 2022, 07:41

It is a 1,5 tonner. Would be nice to know it's full history. Most of the parts of a 1,5 tonner are identical over the whole of the production history, so in theory it could be produced after the war. The layout of the cabine could be either custom for auxilary use of firefihter. Very interresting vehicle!
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Post by pietvanhees » 14 Jul 2022, 07:52

the Rocketman wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 10:35
Hi

Can we try to indentify this truck

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Photo taken in Holland or maybe Belgium because the sign on the building says Politie or in English Police.

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With the steering wheel on the right side my guess is British, but not found yet.
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Post by SIS 5 » 14 Jul 2022, 10:22

Hi Piet, hi Max,

thank You very much for Your reply and the correction. Yes, it is a 1,5 tonner, because of the smaller platform. My fault was to tell the load capacity and not the type.But I think that it is the type 3,5 – 36, and not the type 2,5 – 32.
And I could find another pic of the Opel Blitz semi-trailer truck Max posted 2nd July. Initially it was registered as a civilian truck with the police headquarters of Cologne (IZ - 163 126). Later is was hired by Organisation Todt (OT). Source of the pic: Tankograd - Wehrmacht Special № 4015 "Opel Blitz 3-Tonner" by Henry Hoppe.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Hoss65 » 14 Jul 2022, 16:06

Regarding post 12659

"the Rocketman wrote: ↑
11 Jul 2022, 10:35
Hi

Can we try to indentify this truck

Truck onbekend .png

Photo taken in Holland or maybe Belgium because the sign on the building says Politie or in English Police.

with regards

Bert

With the steering wheel on the right side my guess is British, but not found yet."

As Czechoslovakia drove on the left until 1939 it could also be a Czech vehicle. It has a look of Skoda to me but I haven't found anything to support that idea. It certainly doesn't appear to be a Skoda S, which was my first thought.

Regarding post 12654 by Sturm 78. Apart from the cab the truck has a lot of similarities to an OM Taurus. Maybe with a replacement cab? Does anyone have any thoughts about it?
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 14 Jul 2022, 22:39

pietvanhees wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 07:41
It is a 1,5 tonner. Would be nice to know it's full history. Most of the parts of a 1,5 tonner are identical over the whole of the production history, so in theory it could be produced after the war. The layout of the cabine could be either custom for auxilary use of firefihter. Very interresting vehicle!
Hi Piet,
Thanks very much for your information. The ad states it was first registered in 1943 but "was implemented on a longer chassis in the 1960s" and "was once a tow truck." but now is a tipper. In your opinion just how much of the original Opel lorry is left? For instance, do you think that it was originally an extended cab? It looks quite similar to the semi tractor that Bert posted/
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 14 Jul 2022, 22:44

SIS 5 wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 10:22
Hi Piet, hi Max,

And I could find another pic of the Opel Blitz semi-trailer truck Max posted 2nd July. Initially it was registered as a civilian truck with the police headquarters of Cologne (IZ - 163 126). Later is was hired by Organisation Todt (OT). Source of the pic: Tankograd - Wehrmacht Special № 4015 "Opel Blitz 3-Tonner" by Henry Hoppe.

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Bert
Hi Bert,
Yes! That is the same truck. Thanks very much for solving the mystery and posting that great photo.
Cheers,
Max

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Robturner » 15 Jul 2022, 08:31

Dear all,
More time on the Internet with Opel Blitz conversions in mind brought, from a website devoted to modelling vehicles,
the information that the russians added a third, unpowered axle to some captured Opels to increase the load-carrying capacity.
I then found the enclosed image which is, I believe, from a model kit box-top.
I'm almost convinced that the photo is genuine. Is it?
Rob.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by ilfil » 15 Jul 2022, 13:19

Hi Rob,
It was laugh. The Russians have nothing in common with this Blitz conversion, you fell victim of yet another "expert".
Here is the original picture of an unknown Luftwaffe unit taken in Lemberg, now Lvov (in Russian, in Ukrainian Lviv):

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This is a DAF/Trado conversion and small quantity of these were used in Luftwaffe. The conversions were made by Pohlig, a Köln-based small company.
HTH
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Robturner » 15 Jul 2022, 19:42

Hello ilfil,
Many thanks for clearing up that bit of a mystery; I knew that someone on the Axis History Forum would be able to provide full and accurate details of the Opel conversion.
It's an interesting subject and I'll no doubt return to it again.
Regards, Rob.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Jul 2022, 00:09

Hi all,

I am not sure about this truck: Büssing type VI GL ??

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by ilfil » 16 Jul 2022, 00:41

Hi Sturm,
You're right, this is VI GL but here also must be specified this is the first model of 1927. On the late models (1928/29 and 1930) the smooth sexy transition between the front end and the cab is gone and they have bumper.
HTH
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