Vehicle identity requests

Discussions on the vehicles used by the Axis forces. Hosted by Christian Ankerstjerne
Post Reply
arminfreitag
Member
Posts: 1192
Joined: 21 Nov 2018, 22:30
Location: Germany

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12706

Post by arminfreitag » 22 Aug 2022, 21:39

Hi Max
thank you for your prompt reply and the identification.

Regards
Armin

User avatar
Pz III
Member
Posts: 704
Joined: 19 Jan 2015, 02:35
Location: Maryland

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12707

Post by Pz III » 23 Aug 2022, 15:32

carius wrote:
21 Aug 2022, 04:14
Hanomag SS 55

George
Thank you George


Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17927
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12708

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Aug 2022, 21:45

Hi all,

Can somebody identify the exact model of this Rochet Schneider truck ?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78
Attachments
Rochet Schneider truck captured2.jpg

User avatar
Maxschnauzer
Financial supporter
Posts: 6002
Joined: 24 Jan 2014, 08:36
Location: Philippines

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12709

Post by Maxschnauzer » 25 Aug 2022, 22:08

Hi Sturm,
It looks like a 420 VLES to me.
Attachments
Rochet Schneider 420 VLES.jpg
Rochet Schneider 420 VLES.jpg (118.13 KiB) Viewed 1327 times
Cheers,
Max

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17927
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12710

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Aug 2022, 15:26

Max wrote
It looks like a 420 VLES to me.
Thank you, Max

According to Holger`s webpage http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... _vles.html, I think there are some differences... :? ...front mudguards, cab,....

Regards
Sturm78

User avatar
Maxschnauzer
Financial supporter
Posts: 6002
Joined: 24 Jan 2014, 08:36
Location: Philippines

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12711

Post by Maxschnauzer » 26 Aug 2022, 21:45

Hi Sturm,
Yes, I see. Good question. I have one similar to those also called 420 VLES.I assumed they were just different year models.
Rochet-Schneider-420-VLES.gif
Rochet-Schneider-420-VLES.gif (122.54 KiB) Viewed 1222 times
Anyway, I think we can agree that your photo is a subvariant of the 420. Perhaps Bert has the answer in his book on French Vehicles of WW2.
Cheers,
Max

User avatar
peeved
Member
Posts: 9109
Joined: 01 Jul 2007, 08:15
Location: Finland

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12712

Post by peeved » 26 Aug 2022, 23:50

A 1937 420 MCR with bit similar mudguards and subtly different rims.
Image

Markus

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5891
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12713

Post by SIS 5 » 27 Aug 2022, 00:36

Hi Max, hi Sturm78,

You ask me about this Rochet-Schneider truck. Unfortunately I don´t have a book on French vehicles of WW 2, only on the vehicles of the French Army 1939 - 1940 and, sorry, I don´t have the answer to Your question. But I will tell You what I think:
I don´t think that it is the type 420 VLES, that´s the truck delivered to the French Army with a wheelbase 4,65m.
And I don´think that it is a subvariant of the type 420, type 420 Vl or 420 VLE, both with the same wheelbase 4,65m.
I think it could be the type 375 VLR or the type 355 "Ajax" because of more payload and a longer wheelbase than the type 420. It is really a pity that I don´t have a pic of these trucks. So my thoughts are only assumptions.

Best regards

Bert

User avatar
carius
Member
Posts: 19633
Joined: 14 Apr 2007, 21:15
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12714

Post by carius » 27 Aug 2022, 04:09

tr1.jpg
tr2.jpg
tr3.jpg
Ebay
George

User avatar
Maxschnauzer
Financial supporter
Posts: 6002
Joined: 24 Jan 2014, 08:36
Location: Philippines

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12715

Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 Aug 2022, 05:05

Hello Bert and George,
Thanks a lot for your opinions. While unsuccessfully trying to find my original source I came across these 2 pics on https://reibert.info/threads/trofei-bli ... te.453363/. Both purport to be 420 VLES and both look a bit different:
Rochet Schneider 420 VLES_01.jpg
Rochet Schneider 420 VLES (1).jpg
So I guess I'm at a loss for an answer at this point. :(
Cheers,
Max

User avatar
Pz III
Member
Posts: 704
Joined: 19 Jan 2015, 02:35
Location: Maryland

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12716

Post by Pz III » 27 Aug 2022, 05:12

carius wrote:
27 Aug 2022, 04:09
tr1.jpgtr2.jpgtr3.jpg
Ebay
George
Some similiarities to early Cletrac tractors. Haven't pinned it down yet

User avatar
carius
Member
Posts: 19633
Joined: 14 Apr 2007, 21:15
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12717

Post by carius » 27 Aug 2022, 05:22

Pz III wrote:
27 Aug 2022, 05:12
carius wrote:
27 Aug 2022, 04:09
tr1.jpgtr2.jpgtr3.jpg
Ebay
George
Some similiarities to early Cletrac tractors. Haven't pinned it down yet
tr4.jpg
tr5.jpg
George

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5891
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12718

Post by SIS 5 » 27 Aug 2022, 09:49

Hi Max,

thank You very much for our reply and posting the two interesting pics of the Rochet-Schneider 420 VLES. On the first pic You can see the workshop on the chassis of this type. Here the drawing of it out of the book ""L´automobile sous l´uniforme" by Francoise Vauvillier with the comment: no other pic available.

Best regards

Bert
Attachments
RS 420 VLES.png
RS 420 VLES.png (59.58 KiB) Viewed 1145 times

User avatar
Maxschnauzer
Financial supporter
Posts: 6002
Joined: 24 Jan 2014, 08:36
Location: Philippines

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12719

Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 Aug 2022, 21:25

Hi Bert,
Thanks for the drawing and that is the book I was thinking of.
Cheers,
Max

User avatar
carius
Member
Posts: 19633
Joined: 14 Apr 2007, 21:15
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Vehicle identity requests

#12720

Post by carius » 04 Sep 2022, 08:48

vir2.jpg
Ebay
George
vir2.jpg

Post Reply

Return to “The Ron Klages Panzer & other vehicles Section”