Vehicle identity requests

[Sander D]

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One for You Bill

I posted this picture some weeks a go.



You said:

Thank you Sander.
Another good find as it is towing one of those odd German trailers with the cab in front.
Those trailers used to drive me crazy trying to identify them as I thought they were some sort of truck

maybe this picture could be of some intrest to you Bill .(expired E-bay sales ).



A field conversion ,



Regards

Sander

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[Bill Murray]

Thank you Sander for two more excellent photos I have not seen before.

Those German trailers with cabs have always interested me. Quite a lot of them seem to be special trailers as opposed to goods/cargo trailers and it seems the cab is for a more comfortable way to transport the crew of the trailers, whatever their special purpose may have been. On others, such as your second photo, the trailers seem to be nothing more than a goods/cargo trailer.

In almost all of the photos that I have of such trailers, the cabin area takes up about 20% of the total length of the trailer which seems to me to be an awful waste of space. Especially since the German forces never had enough motor transport including trailers throughout the war.

Contemporary American/British/French or whatever trailers apparently required the crew to ride in the towing vehicle, in another small vehicle or just to sit in the trailer itself with whatever outside views or ventilation they could get coming through the trailer's windows

If anyone here has any further information on this subject, I would like to see it.

Bill

[TadPortly]

Any ideas?



From Panzernet

[Cuirasseur]

It looks like a Delahaye 135 S. See this link: http://www.businessweek.com/autos/conte ... E+features

[Bill Murray]

I am quite sure you are correct in that it is a Delahaye 135S as raced at LeMans and other courses.

I think we identified this vehicle a couple of years ago on this forum but I cannot get the search thread to give up any photos. There are many photos to be seen on Google but I gave up after 10 pages in attempting to find just this specific vehicle. However, there are enough photos that are close enough to make me think it is this vehicle.

Bill

[Phil Bishop]

Anyone care to hazard a guess as to what this is?

[Phil Bishop]

While I'm here, try this one too...any ideas?

[Bill 13]

Phil etal.
Your tractor resembles a picture in Soviet Tanks and Combat Vehicle of World War Two. Picture is one of a
Vickers Medium 1A . Sent to training duties at Kazan. Not a perfect match but the running gear does match. Caption states pictured vehicle (book not yours) without armament or engine and several others were captured by the Fins at Vitele in 1941(Your pictured one seems to lack engine).

Your unkown tanks are according to a book on early Rissian Tanks, T-18c 45mm. A few of took part in the early stages of the Great Patriotic War (sorry no more info as I can not read Russian )
Bill

From the for what it's worth files..

[Rodan Lewarx]

Small addition. T-18 (AKA MS-1) was built in 1927 and initially armed with 37mm gun but before WW2 rearmed with 45mm gun. A lot of that tanks were used as a pillboxes in a fortified regions.

Regards

[Phil Bishop]

Thanks guys. Yes, the first one had that "British tank mid 30s" look to it when I first found the picture. I just couldn't find a picture match that would confirm what it was, OR a realistic story as to why it would be on the Russian front in 1942!

As to the second picture again I was suspicious that they were Russian late 30s builds but had a feeling they might have been Yugoslav....anyway, both can now be neatly filed away. Well done.

[Sander D]

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some verry interresting pictures from expired E-bay sales

First one looks like a sdkfz 8 with a endclosed cabine,never seen anny thing like that befor (a field modification )



The second one bothers me it looks like a armoured prototype of a sdkfz 10 ????? have some one seen this vehicle befor.



The last one come from a polish forum it shows a panzer II with a 6 ton bildsteincrane on it,used on a factory plant ?????? .



Regards

Sander

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[Bill Murray]

I believe this is a later model Hanomag Sturm. Any other ideas or opinions??
From ebay.
Bill

[Keessmit]

Yes it's a Hanomag. The exact model isn't mentioned in Oswald's Deutsche Autos, but the high grille and the front bumper indicate that it is a 1938-39 Hanomag Sturm with Hebmüller body.
Best regards
Kees

[barbarossa28]

Hello Sander,

The Sd. Kfz. 8 has a car body of the company Gaubschat. These were made for the Reichspost for radio broadcast purposes. Later, these vehicles were used by the Wehrmacht. No further information available...

I think the second vehicle is a prototype of the Sd. Kfz. 252/253 series, too.

The third photo could be made after the war. Many vehicles of the Wehrmacht including half track vehicles and tanks were modified for different purposes after the war.

Regards, Holger.

[Sander D]

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Holgar, thanks for the info.

Regards

Sander

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